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Date:      Tue, 18 Nov 2014 05:15:12 +0000
From:      Adrian Wontroba <aw1@stade.co.uk>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: best overall upgrade from 8.x?
Message-ID:  <20141118051512.GB1995@swelter.hanley.stade.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <1416068269.4781.144.camel@revolution.hippie.lan>
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:17:49AM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-11-15 at 09:26 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Dimitry Andric <dim@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 15 Nov 2014, at 13:53, Adrian Wontroba <aw1@stade.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:44:33PM +0100, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
> > > >> On 11/15/14 05:48, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > > >>> I'd wait a month or so and, if no problems that might impact you pop
> > > up,
> > > >>> I'd go with 10.1
> > > >> Uh... is direct upgrade (using sources) possible from 8.4 to 10.1?
> > > >> No need to step through 9.x?
> > > >
> > > > Even the move from 9.2 (a near year old 9/stable) to 10.1 (stable/10 as
> > > > of about 3 weeks ago) is slightly problematic.
> > > >
> > > > Following the normal upgrade procedure of installkernel and then
> > > > rebooting with the userland untouched runs into a problem whereby
> > > > rc.conf falls apart with a shower of eval errors, no networking, ...
> > > >
> > > > I do not know the cause.
> > >
> > > I almost certainly know the cause: you are supposed to reboot into
> > > single user mode after installkernel.
> > 
> > 
> > This is almost certainly not the cause.  Something else in the horked up
> > given procedure or some omission of facts is the likely cause. Fortunately,
> > nice people have already created documentation on how to do this:
> > 
> > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/makeworld.html
> > 
> > 
> 
> No.  It is absolutely the cause.  It's clear from the original poster's
> report of errors in rc scripts after booting on the new kernel.  If the
> instructions were followed you'd end up in single-user mode and the old
> rc scripts would never have been run before the installworld put the new
> ones in.

Thanks Ian. Now that at $JOB we are no longer using NFS, and all
machines have /usr/src and /usr/obj populated (transferred from the
build machine), rebooting into single user mode after installing the new
kernel becomes much easier. I'll try this on further test 9.2-STABLE to
10.1-STABLE rollouts.

-- 
Adrian Wontroba



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