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Date:      Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:38:25 +0000
From:      Scott Mitchell <s.mitchell@computer.org>
To:        cjclark@home.com
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net>, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Install on DELL Latitude and Xircom CreditCard Ethernet
Message-ID:  <20000208213825.22434@lungfish.freeserve.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <20000207163740.A58810@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>; from Crist J. Clark on Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 04:37:41PM -0500
References:  <200002052251.OAA12829@ptavv.es.net> <200002060416.VAA12619@harmony.village.org> <20000205232730.B14610@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> <20000206114217.12519@lungfish.freeserve.co.uk> <20000207163740.A58810@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>

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On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 04:37:41PM -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 11:42:17AM +0000, Scott Mitchell wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 05, 2000 at 11:27:30PM -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2000 at 09:16:07PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> > > > In message <200002052251.OAA12829@ptavv.es.net> "Kevin Oberman" writes:
> > > > : Unfortunately the generic kernel is not built with support for the
> > > > : Xircom cards. This is mostly because of conflicts with other drivers,
> > > > 
> > > > No.  It isn't built with default because it doesn't work.
> > > 
> > > Whoa!!! Hold on. Xircom CreditCard Ethernet IIps are said to be
> > > supported. From
> > > http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/PAO3/SUPPORTED.CARDS,
> > 
> > I dunno about PAO, but the IIps is only semi-supported on my stock xe
> > driver (which comes with 3.3 and 3.4; you shouldn't need PAO to use it).
> > For 'semi-supported' read "it might work, it might not, we haven't worked
> > out why yet".  Probably shouldn't mention this now, but you'd have been
> > better off with a Xircom CE3 card -- not only will it connect to 100Mbit
> > networks, but they generally work out of the box with the xe driver.
> 
> I wanted to be able to do 10BaseT (RJ-45) or 10Base2 (BNC). I don't
> think I can do that with the CE3.

Indeed you can't.

> But I did have the choice of getting a Linksys card... but I thought
> that the Xircom would be a better choice than a NE2000-clone. :( Guess
> that was a bad call.

It might not be a total wipeout -- we've had about a 50% success rate with
the few CE2 users who've posted on freebsd-xircom.  Getting the driver to
work for the (easily ten times as many) CE3/CEM56 users has been the
priority, though.  So you never know, it might just work, or start to work
with a little encouragement.  I'd get rid of PAO unless you really need it
for some other card; it will only complicate diagnosis of any problems.

	Scott

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