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Date:      Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:16:00 -0600
From:      Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: sysinstall DOESN'T ASK, dangerous defaults! (Was: Re: wats so special about freeBSD?) 
Message-ID:  <200009222116.e8MLG0117482@orthanc.ab.ca>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:19:16 MDT." <4.3.2.7.2.20000922141517.00ddf570@localhost> 

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>>>>> "Brett" == Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> writes:

    Brett> These are special cases, though! I think that you will
    Brett> agree that by default, on FreeBSD (as opposed to hubs,
    Brett> etc.), we should leave telnetd off. (The telnet
    Brett> application, on the other hand, might be run under certain
    Brett> circumstances.)

I have no problem with leaving them disabled. My issue is with removing
them altogether.

Note that for rsh/rlogin it's very easy to ship a default config where
the secure (kerberized) versions are enabled and the insecure ones are
not.

    Brett> As for authentication: Kerberos, S/key, etc. are useful if
    Brett> one must use Telnet. But they're a lot harder to set up and
    Brett> use than SSH! (In the case of Kerberos, *much* harder.)

Kerberos is not *much* harder to set up. It's actually quite simple,
although somewhat tedious. What *is* a pain with Kerberos is the
thoroughly obtuse documentation it provides on how to set it up.

--lyndon


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