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Date:      Thu, 31 May 2001 12:28:31 -0400
From:      Daniel Hagan <dhagan@colltech.com>
To:        WebSec WebSec <secure21st@hotmail.com>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Port 21
Message-ID:  <3B16712F.9DD3EC61@colltech.com>
References:  <F45opYC98Bi89QtpfTY000063a4@hotmail.com>

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WebSec WebSec wrote:
> Also, in my opinion it may not be a good idea to provide real IPs (at
> least in this list) because you never know how you can tip someone.
> Yes, this is "security" by obscurity, but....

That phrase has become so popular that people apparently forget what it
actually *means*.  Restricting information about an ongoing incident is
not security by obscurity.  That is information control, and is a
critical component in "winning" any aggressor/defender scenario.  (Just
check something like the SANS Incident Handling guidelines, they make
it clear that need-to-know and out-of-band communications are
important.)  Security by obscurity is designing a system that is
hopelessly insecure from a technical viewpoint and assuming that
someone will never notice (using xor as an encryption algorithm, for
example).

When designing a security infrastructure, you should have confidence
that even given full knowledge of your system, an attacker would have a
difficult time achieving a compromise.  But it doesn't make much sense
to actually give your attackers that information ahead of time, does
it?  (I'm not referring to special situations like red-team intrusion
testing, I mean actually publishing it willy-nilly on the Internet.)

Daniel

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