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Date:      Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:46:59 -0800 (PST)
From:      David Wolfskill <david@catwhisker.org>
To:        david@catwhisker.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: top output broked?
Message-ID:  <200103271846.f2RIkxF15850@bunrab.catwhisker.org>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.010327102145.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:21:46 -0800 (PST)
>From: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>

>> Hmm... mine loks like that (modulo #CPUs), except when I'm actually
>> making it do some work (re-building the kernel, in this case).  What I
>> see ("top -S") looks like:

>> last pid:  9546;  load averages:  0.97,  0.64,  0.30    up 0+00:08:32 
>> 08:51:47
>> 77 processes:  3 running, 57 sleeping, 2 zombie, 15 waiting
>> CPU states: 91.1% user,  0.0% nice,  5.4% system,  0.4% interrupt,  3.1% idle

>This is probably right..

Yes; that much of it "feels" about right.

>I don't know why you are seeing such weirdness however.  Is your world and
>kernel out of sync.

Assuredly not, but I understand the rationale behind the question.  :-)
(I have the "script" log available for perusal....)

>It's a nice (mis)feature now that if items in the middle
>of kinfo_proc change size it still tries to use the misordered data rather than
>complaining about it like it used to. :-P  See my other e-mail where top on my
>laptop doles out time to userland tasks ok.

>> I confess a degree of skepticism....  :-}

>I agree.

:-)

>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:21:45 -0800 (PST)
>From: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>

>Keep in mind that we no longer charge interrupt time to the process being
>interrupted, instead all that interrupt handling has been pushed off into
>ithreads.  Same for software interrupt threads.

OK; that's a good & useful thing to keep in mind.  And I did see some
IRQ-related entries in top's output.

>That said, I don't see how X is so idle, it's certainly not on my laptop:

>  PID USERNAME PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    TIME   WCPU    CPU COMMAND
>  454 john       4    0 44440K 43464K select   1:57  4.05%  4.05% XFree86
>  461 john       4    0 17076K 16144K select   0:35  0.39%  0.39% enlightenment
>  492 john       4   10  3072K  2040K select   0:28  0.10%  0.10% E-ScreenSave.

Eh... the "enlightenment" line may provide a clue there.  I use tvtwm as
a window manager.  :-}  (I figure anything that could be marginally
acceptable on a (maxed out) 24 MB Sun 3/60 ought to be adequate for this
750 MHz/256 MB laptop....)

Cheers,
david
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