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Date:      Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:52:18 -0400 (AST)
From:      The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
To:        <sendmail@sendmail.org>
Cc:        <ken@mui.net>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: simple idea to rid the world of most spam 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.33.0102170051190.81548-100000@mobile.hub.org>
In-Reply-To: <28130.982383466@euclid.cs.niu.edu>

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actually, what I'd like to know how to implement, if possible, is a filter
in sendmail that allows for the use of ident to verify the user sending
the email exists ... basically, if I can't reply to it, I don't want to
receive it ...

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Neil W Rickert wrote:

> ken@mui.net wrote:
>
> >Ok all, here's something that has been bugging me for months.  It's
> >a very very simple idea, but I don't have the knowledge to do this:
>
> >Have you ever noticed how spam seems to come in the same
> >order and how there's a ton of incorrect email addresses that is
> >sent?
>
> This sometimes happens.
>
> >Why can't some kind of email filter be set up that works like this?
>
> >incorrect email sent to account A-----> turn flag on
> >2nd incorrect email sent to account B ---------> turn 2nd flag on
> >if 2 flags, then refuse ALL email sent from that account, place that
> >name in the ban list.
>
> >The chances of someone sending email to 2 accounts that never
> >existed = 99% chance that person is sending spam.
>
> >I've already talked to some people till I'm blue in the face.   I'm
> >certainly not smart enough to code it, but I'm hoping someone smart
> >out there does this ...
>
> The important questions:
>
>   Will this be reliable?  That is, will it mainly stop spam, and not
>   have much effect on non-spam?
>
>   Will this stop enough spam to be worth the trouble of implementing
>   it?
>
>   Will it be easy to implement?
>
>   Will spammers be easily able to change their behavior to bypass
>   this spam stopper?
>
>   Will system administrators be willing to use this option?
>
> My personal assessment is that this is not worth doing.  But perhaps
> some of my colleagues will have different ideas.
>
> In any case, thank you for sending us the suggestion.
>
>  -NWR
>
>
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