Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:25:34 -0700 From: "Tomlinson, Drew" <Drew.Tomlinson@lc.ca.gov> To: 'Mark Ovens' <marko@freebsd.org>, 'Kent Stewart' <kstewart@urx.com> Cc: "'FreeBSD Questions (E-mail)'" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Part #1 - Newbie Help Determining Lost Root After Upgrade Fro m 4. 0 to 4.1 Message-ID: <8C224DC088D8D111B67D0000F67AC17E029C4C66@ldcmsx01.lc.ca.gov>
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This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --Boundary_(ID_65k1I509w1uQdLJE3Qjx+A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Thank you both for your help. I am compiling a new kernel right now. I'm actually in California but I use a dynamic IP (dynip.com) DNS service that is located in Canada. So would this be why I had an error using CVSup with the "cvs-crypto" tag? I don't remember the exact error but it was something along the lines of it not being available. When I commented out the "cvs-crypto" and uncommented the individual collections, I didn't get the unavailable error. So what problems am I likely to encounter once I get a good kernel? Also, you are correct, mergemaster didn't actually update anything as the default is to leave it for later. I've read the man page but don't understand why/when I want to keep, replace, or merge. I am completely new to Unix and am having a difficult time grasping concepts. Thank you both again for your time. I really appreciate it. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Mark Ovens [mailto:marko@freebsd.org] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 9:42 AM To: Kent Stewart Cc: Tomlinson, Drew; 'FreeBSD Questions (E-mail)' Subject: Re: Part #1 - Newbie Help Determining Lost Root After Upgrade From 4. 0 to 4.1 On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 09:33:30AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Mark Ovens wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 09:13:36AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > > > > > Mark Ovens wrote: > > > > > > > > Hmm, the file you really should consult here is /usr/src/UPDATING. You > > > > got the sequence slightly wrong (the handbook doesn't always get > > > > updated immediately, UPDATING does). From /usr/src/UPDATING: > > > > > > > > To update from 4.0-RELEASE or later to the most current > > > > 4.x-STABLE > > > > ---------- > > > > make buildworld > > > > make buildkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > > > > make installkernel KERNEL=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > > > > reboot (in single user) [1] > > > > make installworld > > > > mergemaster > > > > reboot > > > > > > > > > When I reboot, the system is unable to mount the root > > > > > device. I am able to unload the new kernel, load the old one > > > > > and boot without error. > > > > > > > > Good, at least you can boot the system.... > > > > > > > > > I'm sure I've done something wrong and would like to know > > > > > what it is. I could take the easy way out and just install > > > > > 4.1 from scratch but I wouldn't learn anything that way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking at the boot messages it is finding ata0 and ata1, the IDE > > > > controllers, but it isn't even probing for the disks. In the config > > > > file for your custom kernel you have commented out important IDE > > > > devices: > > > > > > > > # ATA and ATAPI devices > > > > device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 > > > > device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 > > > > #device ata > > > > #device atadisk # ATA disk drives > > > > #device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives > > > > #device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives > > > > #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives > > > > #options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering > > > > #options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices > > > > > > > > uncomment ata, atadisk, atapicd (if you have a CD-ROM), and atapifd > > > > and re-build your custom kernel. If that fails, build a GENERIC kernel > > > > and see if that boots. > > > > > > In his cvsup file he has ports-all tag=. and then lines later he has > > > the crypto souces. Did he get RELENG_4 crypto's or did he get > > > -current? > > > > > > > I spotted that, but since -crypto doesn't exist as a separate > > collection anymore I would expect an error message from cvsup to that > > effect, which is what I saw when -crypto became part of src-all > > (judging by his domain he's in Canada so the USA-specific crypto > > issues wouldn't apply) > > > > > Also, isn't the default on mergemaster todo nothing, which didn't > > > upgrade any of his /etc files. > > > > > > > Yes, but that wouldn't prevent the kernel finding the root partition. > > You got that part covered. I was thinking of the next set of problems > that he is going to have after he remakes a good kernel. > Ah right. Well, as long as he hasn't nuked /usr/obj he can just boot single-user and re-run mergemaster (with our guidance :)). BTW, looking back at the original post I notice: # The easiest way to get the export-restricted code is to use the # "cvs-crypto" mega-collection. #cvs-crypto -- This is commented as I got errors when trying to fetch # # These are the individual collections that make up "cvs-crypto". If # you use these, be sure to comment out "cvs-crypto" above. -- I didn't get errors. src-crypto src-secure src-sys-crypto So he did get the error about cvs-crypto, as I expected, but I missed src* lines after. I guess that this would get -current crypto stuff, but is all of the crypto stuff MFC'd so it wouldn't make any difference? > KEnt > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > > > WARNING: Make a copy of your working kernel (e.g. /kernel.ok). I > > > > suspect it is currently called kernel.old, if so it will get > > > > overwritten (with the broken /kernel) when the next kernel you build > > > > is installed. > > > > > > > > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > > > > > > > You're welcome. > > > > > > > > > I really want to learn this operating system! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good for you :) > > > > > > > > > Drew > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > -- > > > > 4.4 - The number of the Beastie > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > > > > 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark > > > > mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > > Kent Stewart > > > Richland, WA > > > > > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > > > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > > > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > > > -- > > 4.4 - The number of the Beastie > > ________________________________________________________________ > > 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > > 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark > > mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com --Boundary_(ID_65k1I509w1uQdLJE3Qjx+A) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2650.12"> <TITLE>RE: Part #1 - Newbie Help Determining Lost Root After Upgrade = From 4. 0 to 4.1</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thank you both for your help. I am compiling a = new kernel right now. </FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'm actually in California but I use a dynamic IP = (dynip.com) DNS service that is located in Canada. So would this = be why I had an error using CVSup with the "cvs-crypto" = tag? I don't remember the exact error but it was something along = the lines of it not being available. When I commented out the = "cvs-crypto" and uncommented the individual collections, I = didn't get the unavailable error.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>So what problems am I likely to encounter once I get = a good kernel? Also, you are correct, mergemaster didn't actually = update anything as the default is to leave it for later. I've = read the man page but don't understand why/when I want to keep, = replace, or merge. I am completely new to Unix and am having a = difficult time grasping concepts.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thank you both again for your time. I really = appreciate it.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Drew </FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Mark Ovens [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:marko@freebsd.org">mailto:marko@freebsd.org</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 9:42 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Kent Stewart</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: Tomlinson, Drew; 'FreeBSD Questions = (E-mail)'</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: Part #1 - Newbie Help Determining Lost = Root After Upgrade</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From 4. 0 to 4.1</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 09:33:30AM -0700, Kent = Stewart wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Mark Ovens wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 09:13:36AM -0700, = Kent Stewart wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > Mark Ovens wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > Hmm, the file you really should = consult here is /usr/src/UPDATING. You</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > got the sequence slightly wrong = (the handbook doesn't always get</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > updated immediately, UPDATING = does). From /usr/src/UPDATING:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > = > To update from = 4.0-RELEASE or later to the most current</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > = > 4.x-STABLE</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > = > ----------</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > = > make = buildworld</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > = > make buildkernel = KERNEL=3DYOUR_KERNEL_HERE</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > = > make installkernel = KERNEL=3DYOUR_KERNEL_HERE</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > = > reboot (in = single user) [1]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > = > make = installworld</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > = > mergemaster</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > = > reboot</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > > When I reboot, the system = is unable to mount the root</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > > device. I am able to unload = the new kernel, load the old one</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > > and boot without = error.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > Good, at least you can boot the = system....</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > > I'm sure I've done = something wrong and would like to know</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > > what it is. I could take = the easy way out and just install</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > > 4.1 from scratch but I = wouldn't learn anything that way.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > Looking at the boot messages it = is finding ata0 and ata1, the IDE</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > controllers, but it isn't even = probing for the disks. In the config</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > file for your custom kernel you = have commented out important IDE</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > devices:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > # ATA and ATAPI devices</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > = device = ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > = device = ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > = #device ata</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > = #device = atadisk  = ; # ATA disk drives</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > = #device = atapicd  = ; # ATAPI CDROM drives</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > = #device = atapifd  = ; # ATAPI floppy drives</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > = #device = atapist  = ; # ATAPI tape drives</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > = #options = ATA_STATIC_ID  = ; #Static device numbering</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > = #options = ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI = devices</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > uncomment ata, atadisk, atapicd = (if you have a CD-ROM), and atapifd</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > and re-build your custom kernel. = If that fails, build a GENERIC kernel</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > and see if that boots.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > In his cvsup file he has ports-all = tag=3D. and then lines later he has</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > the crypto souces. Did he get = RELENG_4 crypto's or did he get</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > -current?</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > I spotted that, but since -crypto doesn't = exist as a separate</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > collection anymore I would expect an error = message from cvsup to that</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > effect, which is what I saw when -crypto = became part of src-all</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > (judging by his domain he's in Canada so = the USA-specific crypto</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > issues wouldn't apply)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > Also, isn't the default on = mergemaster todo nothing, which didn't</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > upgrade any of his /etc files.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > Yes, but that wouldn't prevent the kernel = finding the root partition.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> You got that part covered. I was thinking of = the next set of problems</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> that he is going to have after he remakes a = good kernel.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ah right. Well, as long as he hasn't nuked /usr/obj = he can just boot</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>single-user and re-run mergemaster (with our = guidance :)).</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>BTW, looking back at the original post I = notice:</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2># The easiest way to get the export-restricted code = is to use the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2># "cvs-crypto" mega-collection.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>#cvs-crypto -- This is commented as I got errors = when trying to fetch</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>#</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2># These are the individual collections that make up = "cvs-crypto". If</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2># you use these, be sure to comment out = "cvs-crypto" above. -- I didn't get</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>errors.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>src-crypto</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>src-secure</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>src-sys-crypto</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>So he did get the error about cvs-crypto, as I = expected, but I missed</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>src* lines after. I guess that this would get = -current crypto stuff,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>but is all of the crypto stuff MFC'd so it wouldn't = make any</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>difference?</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> KEnt</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > Kent</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > WARNING: Make a copy of your = working kernel (e.g. /kernel.ok). I</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > suspect it is currently called = kernel.old, if so it will get</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > overwritten (with the broken = /kernel) when the next kernel you build</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > is installed.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > > Thank you in advance for = your help.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > You're welcome.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > > I really want to learn this = operating system!</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > Good for you :)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > > Drew</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > [snip]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > = > &n= bsp; 4.4 - The number of the Beastie</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > = ________________________________________________________________</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > 51.44=B0N FreeBSD - The = Power To Serve <A HREF=3D"http://www.freebsd.org" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.freebsd.org</A></FONT>; <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > 2.057=B0W My Webpage <A = HREF=3D"http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark</A></FONT>; <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > <A = HREF=3D"mailto:marko@freebsd.org">mailto:marko@freebsd.org</A> &nbs= p; &nbs= p; <A HREF=3D"http://www.radan.com" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.radan.com</A></FONT>; <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to = majordomo@FreeBSD.org</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > > with "unsubscribe = freebsd-questions" in the body of the message</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > Kent Stewart</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > Richland, WA</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > ></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > <A = HREF=3D"mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com">mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com</A></FO= NT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > <A = HREF=3D"http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html</A></FONT>= <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > > FreeBSD News <A = HREF=3D"http://daily.daemonnews.org/" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://daily.daemonnews.org/</A></FONT>; <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > --</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> = > &n= bsp; 4.4 - The number of the Beastie</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > = ________________________________________________________________</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > 51.44=B0N FreeBSD - The Power To = Serve <A HREF=3D"http://www.freebsd.org" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.freebsd.org</A></FONT>; <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > 2.057=B0W My Webpage <A = HREF=3D"http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark</A></FONT>; <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> > <A = HREF=3D"mailto:marko@freebsd.org">mailto:marko@freebsd.org</A> &nbs= p; &nbs= p; <A HREF=3D"http://www.radan.com" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.radan.com</A></FONT>; <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> -- </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Kent Stewart</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Richland, WA</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> <A = HREF=3D"mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com">mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com</A></FO= NT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> <A = HREF=3D"http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html</A></FONT>= <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> FreeBSD News <A = HREF=3D"http://daily.daemonnews.org/" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://daily.daemonnews.org/</A></FONT>; </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-- </FONT> <BR> = <FONT SIZE=3D2>4.4 - The = number of the Beastie</FONT> <BR><FONT = SIZE=3D2>_______________________________________________________________= _</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>51.44=B0N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve <A = HREF=3D"http://www.freebsd.org" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.freebsd.org</A></FONT>; <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>2.057=B0W My Webpage <A = HREF=3D"http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark</A></FONT>; <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A = HREF=3D"mailto:marko@freebsd.org">mailto:marko@freebsd.org</A> &nbs= p; &nbs= p; <A HREF=3D"http://www.radan.com" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.radan.com</A></FONT>; </P> </BODY> </HTML> --Boundary_(ID_65k1I509w1uQdLJE3Qjx+A)-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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