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Date:      Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:46:01 -0800 (PST)
From:      Simon Shapiro <shimon@simon-shapiro.org>
To:        (Satoshi Asami) <asami@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        maillist@candle.pha.pa.us, scrappy@hub.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, pgsql-ports@postgreSQL.org, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, freebsd-database@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com
Subject:   Re: [PORTS] Pgaccess doesn't run on -current anymore, Update
Message-ID:  <XFMail.980324204601.shimon@simon-shapiro.org>
In-Reply-To: <199803250217.VAA02286@bubble.didi.com>

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On 25-Mar-98 Satoshi Asami wrote:
>  * Why?
> 
> Because it's a waste of time.  If you want to know what happened
> before, anyone can go check the mail archives.

I think you are still missing the point, by a wide margin:

a.  It is not a waste of time, because people have to learn, adjust,
    comprehend and accept.

b.  The original discussion was on the merits/demerits of the change in the
    context of FreeBSD build.  This discussion was about the impact on
    unforseen new evidence.  The people involved have the right to fit the
    two realities into a coherent picture.

c.  The name and location of various pieces of tcl/tk in FreeBSD is a minor
    discovery in resolving this issue.

d.  No one has disputed the wisdom of the original reason for the change. 
    No one challenged it either.  People simply wanted to know what
    happened.

e.  If there is any problem here, it evolves around either making the
    change in such a manner that established packages, writen and maintained
    by several people, all broke due to lack of documented migration path.
    If failure at all (notice the IF), it is of no one of the people
    involved in this issue, but of someone who is very noisy all of a sudden
    to squash the discussion.

>  * I belive the issue is clear, and the course of action identified. 
> Rather
>  * than shutting us up, maybe you suggest how we avoid the breakage on
> the
>  * next package?  I certainly do not know how (in the context of not
> having
> 
> As already suggested, specify the full pathname.

That was already done, without any grumbling, nor objection.  Relax :-)

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Sincerely Yours, 

Simon Shapiro
Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG                      Voice:   503.799.2313

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