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Date:      Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:38:24 -0700
From:      Maksim Yevmenkin <myevmenk@exodus.net>
To:        Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
Cc:        Maksim Yevmenkin <Maksim.Yevmenkin@exodus.net>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Interrupt vs. polling on -current
Message-ID:  <3D581CC0.8B91EFE2@exodus.net>
References:  <20020813051700.M25922-100000@gamplex.bde.org>

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Bruce Evans wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Maksim Yevmenkin wrote:
> 
> > Bruce Evans wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 11 Aug 2002, Maksim Yevmenkin wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > > > BTW, i see "silo overflow" messages when i run ppp via null-modem
> > > > cable. in this configuration i'm using serial port 0 which is on
> > > > board and hase irq 4 with fast interrupts.
> > >
> > > What else is active when you get these?
> >
> > not much: X, user space ppp and i'm doing moderate size transfers
> > via ftp between my current laptop and FreeBSD 4.5 desktop. i also
> > see these errors while cvsup'ing my -current laptop.
> 
> Some graphics cards can cause sio problems, by using too bus cycles so
> that sio doesn't get even an average of about 5 i/o cycles per character
> time that it needs to function.  5 might sound like not many, but it is
> 5 isa cycles so it takes 6 usec every 87 usec at 115200 bps.  20 devices
> wanting that much of the bus just won't work.

WHOA! that scares the hell out of me. You sound like any hardware that
uses interrupt/bus might hurt poor "sio" driver pretty badly. There is
not much use in computer that has only CPU and serial port :) i'm not 
trying to blame anybody here, but rather understand what is wrong.

BTW, i have s3 savage/mx and neomagic/av video cards in my laptops.

thanks,
max

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