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Date:      Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:10:48 -0700
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, info@netcraft.com, webmaster@netcraft.com
Subject:   Re: Netcraft no longer sees FreeBSD ... ?
Message-ID:  <20020906201048.GB77907@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020906151222.T72523-100000@earth.hub.org>
References:  <20020906151222.T72523-100000@earth.hub.org>

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On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 03:21:51PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> 	Starting around the middle of June, Netcraft started to report my
> servers as OS: unknown ... and no longer reporting uptime values ...
>=20
> 	From what I've seen in posts by other FreeBSDer's, this seems to
> be a relatively common thing, with someone mentioning it had to do with a
> recent upgrade @ netcraft ...
>=20
> 	So:
>=20
> 	Does anyone know why Netcraft can no longer detect FreeBSD?  Is it
> an OS version issue?  Or an Apache issue?

Probably some IP stack behaviour change that causes it to no longer
have the same 'fingerprint' (cf nmap's OS detection).  They would need
to update their detection algorithm with the new fingerprint.

> 	Does anyone know what Netcraft uses to determine uptime?

RFC 1323 TCP extensions, I believe.

Kris

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