Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:22:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Lemon <jlemon@americantv.com> To: brett@lariat.org, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCWeek article by Anne Chen -- Comments Message-ID: <199905051822.NAA12099@free.pcs> In-Reply-To: <local.mail.freebsd-chat/19990505165732$54b6@fish.pcs> References: <local.mail.freebsd-chat/4.2.0.37.19990504223819.00c28c30@localhost> <local.mail.freebsd-chat/199905041651.MAA23567@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> <local.mail.freebsd-chat/Pine.BSF.4.05.9905042357120.402-100000@insomnia.local.net> <local.mail.freebsd-chat/4.2.0.37.19990504223819.00c28c30@localhost> <local.mail.freebsd-chat/19990505081901.B24172@ontario.mooseriver.com>
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In article <local.mail.freebsd-chat/19990505165732$54b6@fish.pcs> you write: >At 08:19 AM 5/5/99 -0700, Josef Grosch wrote: >>I've said this before and I'll say it again. If you are that unhappy with >>our efforts then get up off your dead ass and do something about it. Prove >>us wrong. Time to put up or shut up. > >Again, how would you suggest that I invest this massive amount of time and >effort (and it would be massive; there's a LOT of work to do and many things >to UNdo) and not go broke? While I *would* like to see FreeBSD succeed, I >certainly couldn't martyr myself financially for it. Provide _constructive_ guidance and leadership. There probably are quite a few lurkers on the list who would be more than happy to help, if someone would just tell them how. Not just "go off and do XXX", but provide scripted, step-by-step instructions. If you don't have the time to do it yourself, then explain to others how to do it. When objections are raised (cf: advocacy style), then 1) attempt to educate (sell) why your approach will work, and if that still fails, 2) take into account the objections, realize that perhaps your target will not be accomplished in one step, and 3) reformulate your plan into smaller increments that are palatable to the volunteers. Just a suggestion. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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