Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:15:07 -0400 From: Mikhail Teterin <mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com> To: Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez <rnsanchez@wait4.org> Cc: gnome@freebsd.org, Dominic Fandrey <kamikaze@bsdforen.de>, ports@freebsd.org, Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net> Subject: compatibility with installed ports (Re: what is gio-fam?) Message-ID: <200804151115.08261.mi%2Bmill@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <20080415114302.7def3e2a.rnsanchez@wait4.org> References: <20080414214750.699014501A@ptavv.es.net> <200804151003.18644.mi%2Bmill@aldan.algebra.com> <20080415114302.7def3e2a.rnsanchez@wait4.org>
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=D0=B2=D1=96=D0=B2=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=BA 15 =D0=BA=D0=B2=D1=96=D1= =82=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8C 2008 10:43 =D0=B4=D0=BE, Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez =D0= =92=D0=B8 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8: > > Going forward, one hopes, gnome-team will not be so cavalier in forcing > > upgrades... > > How about working with the gnome-team instead of blaming them? =C2=A0I'd = bet > that if you had to upgrade Gnome by hand, you would be using KDE or > something else. Yes, yes. We have to come to this point, don't we? After several attempts a= re=20 made at defending a blunder, an indignant request is made for the complaini= ng=20 party to help the culprit (even if an /explicit/ aknowledgement of the=20 blunder is yet to appear)... Gnome@ is a team. They are not lacking in resources, AFAIK. The author of=20 tinderbox is a prominent member, for crying out loud! The problem is the=20 "philosophy". I readily admit, that their work is vast, but the "all your=20 ports are belong to us" and the "portupgrade is easy, so shut up" attitude = is=20 not something, that "working with the gnome-team" can help with... Meanwhile, judging from what can be gathered from their mailing lists, the= =20 KDE@ team is working hard to ensure peaceful co-existence of KDE3 and KDE4= =20 ports... > Shouting at gnome-team won't help at all. Pointing out a problem sometimes helps prevent it from reoccuring or, at=20 least, reduce the frequency/severety of the reoccurance(s). Sometimes it al= so=20 helps fix the current instance... -mi
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