Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 19:52:13 +0000 From: "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak@execpc.com> To: spork <spork@super-g.com>, Arne Woerner <arne.woerner@tu-clausthal.de> Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <980627195213.ZM28058@darkstar.connect.com> In-Reply-To: spork <spork@super-g.com> "Re: your mail" (Jun 27, 3:12pm) References: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980627150925.7452B-100000@super-g.inch.com>
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On Jun 27, 3:12pm, spork wrote: > Subject: Re: your mail > Do the folks that oppose this stuff feel that it is someone else's > responsibility to teach their children right from wrong? There are alot > of things wrong with the world, but trying to "protect" children from all > the wrongs rather than educating them seems backwards. I suspect that you are correct here. > > All the time Mr. Woerner has spent sending these emails to this list would > have been better spent on volunteering at a local youth outreach center I > think. > You probably should have another read of Greg Lehey's post regarding this issue, and get off the poor guy's back. Frank > Charles Sprickman > spork@super-g.com > ---- > > On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Arne Woerner wrote: > > > i thought questions@freebsd.org is an email address where complaints about > > http://www.de.freebsd.org/cgallery.html > > can be sent to. > > all links i annouced can be found on the freebsd pages! > > i have annouced these links because some subscribers asked me to do this! > > > > on bill gates' page no one will ever find those references. > > and bill gates' support engineers would not tell lies about people who > > try to help! > > > > your web pages are very uncool! > > > > i do not want any emails from you. thank you! > > > > -woerner > > > > >From djv@lucy.bedford.net Sat Jun 27 13:23:11 1998 > > >From: CyberPeasant <djv@lucy.bedford.net> > > >Subject: Re: your mail from 1998-06-27 05:31:27 etc. pp. > > >To: arne.woerner@tu-clausthal.de (Arne Woerner) > > >Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 07:22:29 -0400 (EDT) > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > >Arne Woerner wrote > > >> i never sent any emails to your domain. > > > > > >Yes you did; I have archived several of them. They are undeniably > > >from you. Since my porn filter caught them, you received warning > > >messages. Child pornography is illegal in the United States. It > > >is not a suitable subject for discussion on a technical questions > > >mailing list with thousands of innocent subscribers. > > > > > >Please do not send any more material about child pornography to me > > >or I shall certainly take action with responsible authorities. > > > > > >I AM ADVISING YOU NOW THAT I DO NOT WISH TO RECEIVE EMAIL FROM YOU > > >ABOUT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY. I AM NOT GOING TO VISIT ANY WEBSITES THAT > > >YOU SUGGEST, AND IF YOU PERSIST, I CAN AND WILL TAKE ACTION. > > > > > >*** ICH SAGE IHNEN, DASZ ICH K E I N KINDERPORN WUENSCHE. > > >*** ICH WERDE DIES ANWEIS N I C H T WIEDERHOLEN. > > > > > >> please blame the maintainer of the mailing list for those mails. > > >> no more mails from you to me, please! > > >> > > >> thank you. > > >> > > >> -woerner > > >> >From listread@lucy.bedford.net Sat Jun 27 11:38:56 1998 > > >> >Subject: Auto Response > > >> >To: arne.woerner@tu-clausthal.de (Arne Woerner) > > >> >Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 05:31:27 -0400 (EDT) > > >> >X-no-archive: yes > > >> >From: CyberPeasant <djv@bedford.net> > > >> >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >This is an automated response. > > >> > > > >> >Email sent to my address contained sufficient trigger-words to suggest > > >> >that it contains child pornography or other undesirable and/or other > > >> >illegal material. > > >> > > > >> >If such mails persist, legal action will be taken. > > >> > > > >> > -------------------TEXT OF OFFENDING MAIL------------------------------------- > > >> >> From djv Sat Jun 27 04:42:42 1998 > > >> >> From: Arne Woerner <arne.woerner@tu-clausthal.de> > > >> >> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 09:23:42 +0200 (MET DST) > > >> >> Message-Id: <199806270723.JAA13694@azurix.rz.tu-clausthal.de> > > >> >> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > >> >> Cc: arne.woerner@tu-clausthal.de > > >> >> Subject: Re: http://www.de.freebsd.org/cgallery.html > > >> >> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > >> >> X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > >> > > > >> >> i found a third possibly child-endangering reference: > > >> >> <LI><A HREF="http://www.persiankitty.com"><STRONG>WWW.PersianKitty.COM > > >> >> </STRONG></A> -- Adult Links web site</LI> > > >> >> suspicious words: > > >> >> Adult Links > > >> >> > > >> >> thank you for your cooperation. > > >> >> > > >> >> -woerner > > >> >> > > >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >> >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >-- > > > The freedom to decide who you are and what you drink. > > > There's nothing more American than that. > > > So, be free. Drink RC. > > > > > >From listread@lucy.bedford.net Sat Jun 27 13:08:24 1998 > > >Subject: Auto Response > > >To: arne.woerner@tu-clausthal.de (Arne Woerner) > > >Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 07:07:46 -0400 (EDT) > > >X-no-archive: yes > > >From: CyberPeasant <djv@bedford.net> > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > >Arne Woerner wrote: > > >> From djv Sat Jun 27 05:23:43 1998 > > >> From: Arne Woerner <arne.woerner@tu-clausthal.de> > > >> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:12:36 +0200 (MET DST) > > >> Message-Id: <199806270812.KAA13762@azurix.rz.tu-clausthal.de> > > >> To: julian@whistle.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > >> Cc: arne.woerner@tu-clausthal.de > > >> Subject: Re: http://www.de.freebsd.org/cgallery.html > > >> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > >> X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > >> i sent my complaint to the Nacamar Corp. which is responsible for the host > > >> www.de.freebsd.org . > > >> > > >> i have nothing to do with this case anymore. so do not send any email to me. > > >> > > >> -woerner > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > > > >-- > > >http://www.microsoft.com/security: `Microsoft Windows NT Server is the most > > > secure network operating system available.' > > >Don Quixote: `You are mistaken, Sancho.' > > > > > >From listread@lucy.bedford.net Sat Jun 27 13:08:27 1998 > > >Subject: Auto Response > > >To: arne.woerner@tu-clausthal.de (Arne Woerner) > > >Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 07:04:46 -0400 (EDT) > > >X-no-archive: yes > > >From: CyberPeasant <djv@bedford.net> > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > > >This is an automated response. > > > > > >Email sent to my address contained sufficient trigger-words to suggest > > >that it contains child pornography or other undesirable and/or other > > >illegal material. > > > > > >If such mails persist, legal action will be taken. > > > > > > -------------------TEXT OF OFFENDING MAIL------------------------------------- > > >> From djv Sat Jun 27 06:03:43 1998 > > >> From: Arne Woerner <arne.woerner@tu-clausthal.de> > > >> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:10:56 +0200 (MET DST) > > >> Message-Id: <199806270910.LAA13980@azurix.rz.tu-clausthal.de> > > >> To: grog@lemis.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, webmaster@freebsd.de, > > >> wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de > > >> Cc: arne.woerner@tu-clausthal.de > > >> Subject: Re: http://www.de.freebsd.org/cgallery.html > > >> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > >> X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > >> >From grog@freebie.lemis.com Sat Jun 27 10:53:50 1998 > > >> >Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:23:32 +0930 > > >> >From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> > > >> >To: Arne Woerner <arne.woerner@tu-clausthal.de>, questions@freebsd.org > > >> >Subject: Re: http://www.de.freebsd.org/cgallery.html > > >> >Mime-Version: 1.0 > > >> >WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog > > >> >Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 > > >> >Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 > > >> >Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 > > >> > > > >> >On Saturday, 27 June 1998 at 9:22:36 +0200, Arne Woerner wrote: > > >> >> thank you for your funny excuses. > > >> > > > >> >Is this intended to be a reply to my previous message? If so, you > > >> >should say so. It's also common practice to quote previous > > >> >correspondence and reply to the person who wrote the message as well > > >> >as the list. See http://www.lemis.com/email.html for more details. > > >> hmm! > > >> > > > >> >> its necessary to check _all_ links. > > >> > > > >> >OK. When you've done it, tell us about it. > > >> i do not offer those pages. so i am not responsible for them. so i will > > >> not check all links. > > >> > > > >> >> the link i found suspicious is > > >> >> <LI><A HREF="http://www.freexxxvideo.com">; > > >> >> <STRONG>All Free XXX Videos</STRONG> > > >> >> </A> -- Adult Entertainment - More than 100 free streaming video clips. > > >> >> </LI> > > >> >> suspicous are the following strings: > > >> >> XXX > > >> >> Adult Entertainment > > >> >> Videos > > >> > > > >> >Well, they're probably not in the best of taste, but I'd suspect that > > >> >the Webmaster could also have discerned the nature of the link when he > > >> >added it. > > >> you allow untrusted persons to add things to your webpages??? > > >> > > > >> >In your first message you say: > > >> > > > >> >> with high pssibility you have a link to a website which offers > > >> >> child-endangering material on your webpage > > >> >> http://www.de.freebsd.org/cgallery.html . > > >> > > > >> >You mention *one* link. You say "child-endangering". Please explain. > > >> yes! 'a link' means 'at least one link'. i am sure that there exists a > > >> valid law which protects children from watching pictures of naked persons. > > >> > > > >> >> i think the reference is away in 24 hours? > > >> > > > >> >Well, do you or don't you? You'll have to ask yourself that > > >> >question. I don't expect they'll go that fast. > > >> i dont know. it is not my case anymore. i do not want to discuss this case > > >> anymore. > > >> > > > >> >From a legal standpoint, I believe these sites are legal. There is no > > >> >bestiality, there is no underage sex. If you still want to get it > > >> >changed, I'd suggest you contact the Webmaster rather than the > > >> >technical questions list. He's Wolfram Schneider > > >> ><wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de>, as you could have found with a more > > >> >perfunctory search of the web pages than you appear to have performed. > > >> beatiality and underage sex would be even worse than child-endangering. > > >> i do not know the contents of those sites. i said that there is a high > > >> possibility that those contents are child-endangering. sorry for my bad > > >> english but its not my native language. > > >> at the bottom of the page i saw the email address > > >> questions@freebsd.org > > >> and i thought this would be the address for mails regarding that page. > > >> > > > >> >Greg > > >> >-- > > >> >See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > >> >finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > > >> > > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >-- End of excerpt from spork To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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