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Date:      Fri, 04 Jul 2014 10:00:29 -0230
From:      Jonathan Anderson <jonathan@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Dan Lukes <dan@obluda.cz>, d@delphij.net, freebsd-security@freebsd.org, gecko@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: RFC: Proposal: Install a /etc/ssl/cert.pem by default?
Message-ID:  <53B69E65.7020507@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20140704024451.GU45513@funkthat.com>
References:  <53B499B1.4090003@delphij.net> <53B4A337.3010907@obluda.cz> <CAF6rxgkhXtXCjWGpbcm0UU3Rr57dXJojQJ05Rqe-sQ_Nmyp8KQ@mail.gmail.com> <53B4BFD2.2060903@obluda.cz> <53B499B1.4090003@delphij.net> <53B4A337.3010907@obluda.cz> <20140704024451.GU45513@funkthat.com>

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John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> Dan Lukes wrote this message on Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 02:26 +0200:
>> If I consider a CA to be trustworthy, I will insert it's certificate to
>> trusted store. No one is welcomed to make such decision in behalf of me.
>
> As others have said, you can customize FreeBSD how you want.. There
> is no, we will uninstall FreeBSD if you uninstall (or set WITHOUT_xxx)
> on your FreeBSD system...


So we agree that customization is required, the question is what a user 
has to do to effect this customization:

1. install a package (possibly included on the install media), or
2. set WITHOUT_MOZILLA_CA_BUNDLE and rebuild FreeBSD.

To me, the approach that doesn't require "rebuild FreeBSD" is the 
simpler one.

It also doesn't require a Security Advisory every time a CA gets dropped 
from Mozilla's bundle (which ought to happen a lot). Ports get updated, 
people get that. I don't think we should introduce things in the base 
system that we *know* will require SAs, freebsd-update, etc.


Jon
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Jonathan Anderson
jonathan@FreeBSD.org



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