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Date:      Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:48:12 -0600
From:      Richard Wackerbarth <rkw@dataplex.net>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Sendmail 8.8.4 questions...
Message-ID:  <l03010900aecbbc5ad4e9@[204.69.236.50]>
In-Reply-To: <199612042334.QAA12288@rocky.mt.sri.com>
References:  <l03010900aecbaaf1bdaa@[204.69.236.50]> <199612041958.NAA21344@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> <199612041951.MAA11333@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199612042058.NAA11575@rocky.mt.sri.com> <l03010900aecbaaf1bdaa@[204.69.236.50]>

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>Richard Wackerbarth writes:
>> >That would be 2.1.6.1.  And, it's a good release except for bugs that
>> >weren't known about until *after* it was set in stone such as the
>> >sendmail bug.
>>
>> And a very few changes have been committed since then.
>
>I don't think so.  Changes have been committed since 2.1.6, but not
>since it was frozen.

WRONG! Look at the ctm updates in the archive. They are triggered by SOME
change in the CVS tree for the 2_1_0 tag.

>> IMHO, such security problem patches SHOULD get committed to the 2.1 tree
>> UNTIL 2.2 has proven itself. Since 2.2 is just now in "beta", I would guess
>> that might be around March, 1997.
>
>Huh?  2.2 is going to be released *long* before that time.  In order for
>it to 'become' proven, it has to be used.  If people aren't willing to
>test it then it'll never be 'stable'.

I agree. However, until it IS proven, we still need a reliable system for
"mission critical" assignments. Those need to get "security" fixes.

>2.1.* is dead in my mind, and I suspect many others.  It lived long past
>it's usefulness in the developers mind.

That is a "developer's" attitude. If we wish to really have FreeBSD used in
commercial environments, we need to adopt more of a "user's" attitude.

I'm not advocating ANY changes other than SECURITY fixes at this point.
I would hope that the same sendmail that works in 2.2 also works in 2.1.6+.
If we need to test that before committing, I'll do so.





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