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Date:      Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:25:54 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Sean Eric Fagan <sef@kithrup.com>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD background logo
Message-ID:  <19970818142554.05331@lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <199708180346.UAA26375@kithrup.com>; from Sean Eric Fagan on Sun, Aug 17, 1997 at 08:46:45PM -0700
References:  <199708180346.UAA26375@kithrup.com>

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On Sun, Aug 17, 1997 at 08:46:45PM -0700, Sean Eric Fagan wrote:
> In article <19970818121348.56163.kithrup.freebsd.chat@lemis.com> Greg writes:
>> Of course we can.  The name is just copyrighted; you're still allowed
>> to write it.
>
> The name is *trademarked*.

I stand corrected.

> It is a registered trademark of USL, which is
> owned by SCO; X/Open, Ltd. (or is it just The Open Group now?) has exclusive
> rights to license the trademark.
>
>> it reminds me a little of Kirk McKusick's
>> limited edition Daemon T-shirt with the deflated death star on the end
>> of the fork.
>
> True story:  it used to be a deflated death star (aka AT&T's logo), until a
> certain Dennis Ritchie complained, because AT&T was no longer the owner of
> UNIX.

Yup:

> From: dmr@alice.att.com (Dennis Ritchie)
> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
> Subject: Re: BSD T-Shirts?
> Message-ID: <26268@alice.att.com>
> Date: 11 Aug 93 06:47:56 GMT
> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ
> Lines: 17
> Status: RO
> 
> Sigh.  Does the new BSD T-Shirt really still have a deflated
> deathstar with horizontal blue lines, or does it have the new one
> with grey right-angled lines?   I mean, look.  Gimme a break.
> 
> Judge Debevoise turned out not to care much that USL placed
> BSDI in the imaginary town of Richmond Falls, Virginia,
> and the new judge probably won't care much that the Regents say
> that USL is still a majority-owned subsidiary of AT&T.
> 
> But some people do care about these details, right?
> 
> In return for a correctly-styled T-shirt and transportation
> expenses, I'll trade you a stint as an expert witness
> in either trial.  No joke.
> 
> 
>         Dennis Ritchie

I didn't keep Kirk's reply, but he complied.  The next thing I have
is (truncated):

> Article: 32566 of comp.unix.bsd
> Path: lemis!Germany.EU.net!mcsun!uknet!doc.ic.ac.uk!agate!toe.CS.Berkeley.EDU!mckusick
> From: mckusick@toe.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Kirk McKusick)
> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
> Subject: Re: BSD T-Shirts?
> Message-ID: <269cf4$398@agate.berkeley.edu>
> Date: 4 Sep 93 06:26:44 GMT
> References: <DTM.93Aug14142803@booyaa.Ebay.Sun.COM> <1993Aug16.145408.21797@Princeton.EDU> <MYCROFT.93Aug26165536@trinit
> y.gnu.ai.mit.edu> <CCr7LD.BCy@space.physics.uiowa.edu>
> Organization: University of California, Berkeley
> Lines: 71
> NNTP-Posting-Host: toe.cs.berkeley.edu
> Status: RO
> 
> The new 4.4BSD T-shirts are just now hot off the presses.  The new
> art has the BSD Daemon standing in Birkenstocks on top of the world
> skewering a deathsquare on his trident.  Under the picture is the
> text ``Free the Berkeley 4.4!''.  The available sizes are Youth
> Small (YS, ages 6-9), Youth Medium (YM, ages 10-13), Youth Large
> (YL, ages 14-16), Adult Small (S), Adult Medium (M), Adult Large
> (L), Adult Extra Large (XL), and Adult Extra Extra Large (XXL).
> The shirts are available only in ash, as that color is designed to
> integrate with the six color halftone artwork.  The shirts are
> Hanes ``Beefy-T'' preshrunk 100% cotton; they are generously cut,
> so after their first washing will fit similarly to a polyester
> shirt of the same size.

> (I have, somewhere, one of those original shirts.)

Yes, so do I.

Greg



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