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Date:      Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:12:43 +0100
From:      Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        rwatson@FreeBSD.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: CTF patch for testing/review
Message-ID:  <20100323111243.124121qxmpk2c4lc@webmail.leidinger.net>
In-Reply-To: <20100322.203553.752311254955266835.imp@bsdimp.com>
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Quoting "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> (from Mon, 22 Mar 2010  
20:35:53 -0600 (MDT)):

> In message: <201003221605.24538.jhb@freebsd.org>
>             John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> : On Monday 22 March 2010 3:05:12 pm M. Warner Losh wrote:
> : > In message: <20100322.125937.278730673160410010.imp@bsdimp.com>
> : >             M. Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> writes:
> : > : In message: <20100322172104.14234yawbsev0sw8@webmail.leidinger.net>
> : > :             Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> writes:
> : > : : Normally we use MK_xxx for things which are opt-in/opt-out.  
> What about
> : > : : using MK_xxx instead of ENABLE_CTF? If people are in favour  
> of MK_xxx,
> : > : : what should the xxx part look like?
> : > :
> : > : Normally we *TEST* MK_XXX for things which are opt-in/opt-out and
> : > : require the user to say WITH_XXX or WITHOUT_XXX if they don't like the
> : > : default (or want to ensure they get option XXX, even if we turn it off
> : > : by default in the future).  The default then gets encoded in
> : > : bsd.own.mk, and permeates the FreeBSD build system since we include
> : > : that everywhere, directly or indirectly.
> : > :
> : > : The problem is that bsd.own.mk is not included in sys.mk, nor should
> : > : it be.  That's why we have the hacky combination of WITH_CTF and
> : > : NO_CTF that's there today.
> : > :
> : > : : Is bsd.kern.mk included in module builds too?
> : > :
> : > : Yes.
> : >
> : > One last thing I should have said was that the patch that was posted
> : > earlier in the thread looked ok, and likely couldn't be made
> : > significantly better due to the bsd.own.mk issue.
> :
> : I think the patch is a good approach, I just think it needs to  
> default to not
> : enabling CTF by default.  Instead, various bsd.foo.mk should selectively
> : enable it.
>
> I should have added that bit as well...

And here it is:
   http://www.leidinger.net/test/ctf2.diff

Please pay attention to one XXX comment. Both cases I describe look  
possible, but I would like to get some more eyes on this issues to not  
overlook something.

I haven't renamed the NO_CTF part yet. Bikeshed: ENABLE_CTF / ADD_CTF  
/ MK_CTF / MK_CTFINFO / MK_CTFINC / ...? Cast your vote please.

Bye,
Alexander.

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