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Date:      Sun, 24 May 1998 13:43:56 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        drifter@stratos.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Waiting for devices to complete operations
Message-ID:  <19980524134356.G353@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <19980523232430.A22200@stratos.net>; from drifter@stratos.net on Sat, May 23, 1998 at 11:24:30PM -0400
References:  <19980523232430.A22200@stratos.net>

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On Sat, 23 May 1998 at 23:24:30 -0400, drifter@stratos.net wrote:
> 	While dialing out to my ISP one night, I noticed that the
> company's phones were done.  That's not the important part.  The issue
> here is that I am noticing that whenever certain operations on devices,
> such as ppp waiting on a connection, or a process waiting for a disk
> operation to complete, it cannot be terminated or killed if you
> have given up on it. Neither a ^C/^\, nor kill -TERM/-KILL from another
> command line.
>         Unfortunately, other than the ppp example, I don't remember
> off hand a specific example involving waiting for a disk operation, but
> that has happened to me to. (A ps reveals a D flag on STAT).
> 	I guess I am wondering if such an annoying trait is someone
> predestined due to hardware constraints, or if it is more of a
> software design issue. What if an "uninteruptable operation" has
> failed, and you need to kill it?
> 	And, if it is a software design issue issue, how come it hasn't
> been "fixed"?  Is such an change actually much harder than it appears?

What wait string do you get from ps -l?

Greg
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