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Date:      Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:11:04 -0800
From:      ML Duke <mlduke@resumes-by-duke.com>
To:        Freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re Opinion
Message-ID:  <33C96084.988DB9CF@resumes-by-duke.com>

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I've been running (read using) the Xerox 6085 (Viewpoint OS) since 1986,
and have watched with facination as first Macintosh and then BG & the
boys stole one
feature after another from Xerox: With an 80M HD and 3.2M Ram running in
Monochrome ever since the long ago 2.2 release, I've been able to do
things like work on three documents at once (62 is possible) while a
manuscript prints on the 4045 Laser with the PC Option Window open and
capable of sending electronic
data at the same time--in StandAlone Mode, Network is better.

I've long been unable to talk to other computer users because because
they just plain thought myself a liar, and I've just recently learned
that much of the capability is because Viewpoint (now GVWin on a PC
though the 6085 still runs) is a Unix like system from the man who is in
the process of introducing me to FreeBSD.

I find the difficult/easy debate interesting, and I believe easy will
always win as a direct result of personal observation: With Viewpoint
long ago and GVWin now, a user can create their own applications by
using Choose Statements along the order of "go to document A in folder
B, extract the information in Field C, run it through the formula in
Field D (contained wherever) and place the result in current folder E
Document F."

With a report template containing as many fields such as the above as
might be desirable, a user can automatically generate the end of week
operating report for a bank, the work is done in the background, and the
report can be available within 15 minutes of closing on Friday.

This is a live example--but no one at the bank wrote the simple Choose
Statements. To sell the machines, local Xerox reps had to do it for
them. Xerox had better and more efficient power in 1986 than W95 has
now--and Xerox fell flat on its face. Users have to think too much. Even
Xerox has "migrated" to MS/Office, and they no longer even support
GVWin. They are out of the computer business, and current Win drag and
drop folder filing--for those who discover its possible--is nothing more
or less than a Viewpoint Desktop.

ML Duke

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I've been running (read using) the Xerox 6085 (Viewpoint OS) since 1986,
and have watched with facination as first Macintosh and then BG &amp; the
boys stole one
<BR>feature after another from Xerox: With an 80M HD and 3.2M Ram running
in Monochrome ever since the long ago 2.2 release, I've been able to do
things like work on three documents at once (62 is possible) while a manuscript
prints on the 4045 Laser with the PC Option Window open and capable of
sending electronic
<BR>data at the same time--in StandAlone Mode, Network is better.<I></I>

<P>I've long been unable to talk to other computer users because because
they just plain thought myself a liar, and I've just recently learned that
much of the capability is because Viewpoint (now GVWin on a PC though the
6085 still runs) is a Unix like system from the man who is in the process
of introducing me to FreeBSD.

<P>I find the difficult/easy debate interesting, and I believe easy will
always win as a direct result of personal observation: With Viewpoint long
ago and GVWin now, a user can create their own <I>applications</I> by using
<I>Choose Statements </I>along the order of "go to document A in folder
B, extract the information in Field C, run it through the formula in Field
D (contained wherever) and place the result in current folder E Document
F."

<P>With a report template containing as many fields such as the above as
might be desirable, a user can automatically generate the end of week operating
report for a bank, the work is done in the background, and the report can
be available within 15 minutes of closing on Friday.

<P>This is a live example--but no one at the bank wrote the simple Choose
Statements. To sell the machines, local Xerox reps had to do it for them.
Xerox had better and more efficient power in 1986 than W95 has now--and
Xerox fell flat on its face. Users have to think too much. Even Xerox has
"migrated" to MS/Office, and they no longer even support GVWin. They are
out of the computer business, and current Win drag and drop folder filing--for
those who discover its possible--is nothing more or less than a Viewpoint
Desktop.

<P>ML Duke</HTML>

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