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Date:      Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:45:39 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Nicole Harrington." <nicole@unixgirl.com>
To:        Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
Cc:        hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
Subject:   Re: 3ware and RAID0 vs RAID 1
Message-ID:  <XFMail.000811164539.nicole@unixgirl.com>
In-Reply-To: <200008112235.PAA00819@mass.osd.bsdi.com>

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 Has anyone tested the Adaptec IDE RAID card?
 After the dos config it is supposed to be faily OS independent.


   Nicole


On 11-Aug-00 Mike Smith wrote:
>> >Ok, thanks.  It *definitely* shouldn't "just hang" at all.
>> 
>> OK, some more quick testing... I was wrong about the hanging, I just did 
>> not wait long enough.
> 
> That's a relief.  I take it that you didn't look at the disks?
> 
>> running bonnie with 100M (the machine has 128M of RAM, both complete in 
>> about 30seconds.  Actually, 33 for the 3ware vs 30.  Sounds reasonable. 
>> (mounts are sync btw)
>> 
>>                -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- 
>> --Random--
>>                -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- 
>> --Seeks---
>> Machine    MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU  /sec
>> %CPU
>> IDE       100 15511 84.5 16221 30.4 17630 33.8 13662  99.9 159587  99.9 
>> 17239.3 99.7
>> RAID1     100 18210 97.4 18148 32.5 19653 36.0 13644 100.0 157095 100.0 
>> 17101.5 99.6
>> 
>> 
>> But, when I do something over my available RAM, the differences become very 
>> apparent.
>>            -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random--
>>            -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks---
>>         MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU  /sec %CPU
>> IDE   500 17721 93.8 18197 33.4  8871 21.2 12800 97.5 22265 21.2 153.1  1.9
>> RAID1 500 14711 81.0 16023 32.0   600  1.4  5805 44.0  6710  6.0 102.2  1.3
>> 
>> Doing a 500MB write on a regular drive on this machine takes about 3min, 
>> 30seconds. On the RAID1, it takes 19 min ??
> 
> Can you be more specific about "a 500M write"?  Are you referring to the 
> bonnie run?  I wouldn't expect it to be 5x as slow.  Note that the 
> rewrite case suggests that your test is still too small; I typically use 
> 1 or 10GB on a 128MB machine.
> 
>> Do you see similar results with your controllers and disks in RAID1 ?
> 
> Bonnie results on these cards tend to suggest that they're fairly slow
> writers.  It's 3ware also observed this, but commented that with two
> writers they found more bandwidth.  I suspect that the write overhead may
> be fairly high, leading to a lot of dead time while writing (the read
> overhead is also an issue I guess).  I haven't done a lot of timing tests,
> as I'm typically more concerned with functionality and reliability.
> 
> 
> 
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