Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 22:13:14 -0500 From: Hunter Satterwhite <hsatterwhite@webassign.net> To: Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Deb Goodkin <deb@freebsdfoundation.org> Subject: Re: projects to better support FreeBSD sysadmins Message-ID: <CA%2B5eA8W4iKAQEQtxPqCXG_wmSwvO4-My8xLy79LdBQREAWBNEQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAG=rPVdV3Lmh0o3mGZSxPn=MXup_y3p2F%2BHN4N0%2B3EjGTUVNWA@mail.gmail.com> References: <CA%2BE3k90y3LOaoQoHH7-916M435t0TmDMpsKR7rF69MkyMMgibg@mail.gmail.com> <20150114023330.GA80986@FreeBSD.org> <CAG=rPVdV3Lmh0o3mGZSxPn=MXup_y3p2F%2BHN4N0%2B3EjGTUVNWA@mail.gmail.com>
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Craig, Could you elaborate on these "problems"? Our data center is ~400 nodes and 99% FreeBSD. We've used CFengine, we're implementing Puppet (and its going great!), we use Ansible, and we also use languages such as Python, Ruby, and Google's Go. Oh and not to mention we have a RESTful application running on FreeBSD + node.js + MongoBD/MySQL. I think the project's focus is fine. Year after year we're given a complete, enterprise Unix operating system and it's only getting better. Best, Hunter On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 02:14:24PM -0900, Royce Williams wrote: > > But the overall project list needed to be rebalanced towards system > > administration. I request that the Foundation consider this when > > calling for proposals for the next round of funded projects. > > Royce, > > I agree with what you wrote, but I want to add to it. > > I would like there to be a focus on making FreeBSD more "devops-friendly" > so that the current generation of devops engineers can pick it up > and easily deploy it in large cluster and cloud environments. We need > to move beyond the 1990's era view of Unix administration where we only > have a few Unix servers administered by hand by a few sysadmins. > > Today's datacenter has hundreds or thousands of nodes. These nodes > need to be installed, maintained, and upgraded. These nodes are more and > more > maintained by devops teams who use automation frameworks (Puppet, Chef, > Ansible, > Saltstack, CFEngine, etc.) to accomplish these tasks. devops teams will > write C and shell script > if they have to, but are very pragmatic about using newer scripting > languages like Python, Ruby, etc. > if it is necessary to get the job done. > > What is FreeBSD doing to be more devops friendly? > How can we make FreeBSD friendlier to people who are trying to deploy > hundreds and thousands of > FreeBSD nodes, especially in datacenter and cloud environments? > > I would like to see the project and Foundation focus on these types of > problems. > > -- > Craig > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > -- Hunter Satterwhite Systems Engineer, Technical Operations (TechOps)
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