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Date:      Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:29:05 -0600
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        Tim Yardley <yardley@uiuc.edu>
Cc:        Don Lewis <Don.Lewis@tsc.tdk.com>, Maksimov Maksim <maksim@tts.tomsk.su>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: How defend from stream2.c attack?
Message-ID:  <397E8531.AE1DF9F@softweyr.com>
References:  <000401bfdb64$3eae8320$0c3214d4@dragonland.tts.tomsk.su> <000401bfdb64$3eae8320$0c3214d4@dragonland.tts.tomsk.su> <4.3.2.7.2.20000725181153.0218d700@students.uiuc.edu> <4.3.2.7.2.20000725223522.00b5dcc0@students.uiuc.edu>

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Tim Yardley wrote:
> 
> >With FreeBSD prior to 3.4/4.0 it didn't matter if you were attempting to
> >use multicast or not, a stream attack using random multicast source
> >addresses would turn your FreeBSD box into an attack reflector on every
> >attached interface.  Urk!
> 
> Correct.  The blocking of multicast statement was meant for people that DO
> NOT use multicast.  If you use multicast, then you cannot block it at the
> router.  In otherwords, block * with multicast addresses.  You could always
> just block tcp with multicast addresses, and that will not affect any real
> multicast traffic.
> 
> >That no longer happens; the code now realizes that a TCP packet from a
> >multicast address is malformed and dumps it on the floor.
> 
> Any sane stack would drop the multicast packets on the floor immediately if
> they are TCP packets.  That is basically what the patch did.  Since the
> notion of TCP multicast is not even possible, that is the correct thing to do.

But then again, that problem existing in the 4.2BSD stack and lived on
until a few months ago.

-- 
            "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                         Softweyr LLC
wes@softweyr.com                                           http://softweyr.com/


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