Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 00:47:35 -0800 From: "Philip J. Koenig" <pjklist@ekahuna.com> To: Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: hub.freebsd.org spam policy Message-ID: <20020405084735449.AAA315@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com> In-Reply-To: <20020405002101.A21529@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20020405075914777.AAA405%empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com>; from pjklist@ekahuna.com on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 11:59:15PM -0800
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On 5 Apr 2002, at 0:21, Kris Kennaway boldly uttered: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 11:59:15PM -0800, Philip J. Koenig wrote: > > > On the other hand, there are other ways to accomplish spam filtering, > > some of which (IMHO) are less likely to cause blocking to non-spam > > messages. > > Our postmaster has been battling spam for years..you can be sure he's > tried and considered all possibilities by now. Well none of this would have been obvious based on the responses I was given. > > A little curt I'd say, and not particularly chock full of helpful > > information. > > Perhaps you should consider that he probably gets quite a lot of email > about this topic, and after the n'th time of explaining the situation > (a lot of times to people who are probably quite self-rightenous and > insistent on their own points of view) it starts getting pretty > monotonous. OK - I certainly understand the 'workload' issues. But then again: - if the system in use was causing less collateral damage, it seems rather obvious that the postmaster will get less upset and belligerent users complaining - if they really are answering the same questions over-and-over, the obvious solution would be a boilerplate document or a webpage to point people to answer their "FAQs". - Despite Greg's assertions that the freebsd people are "all ears" to suggestions, the only freebsd 'employees' so far that I have corresponded with on this issue have been deeply defensive and actually to the point of mocking me for bringing up the issue. Acting aggravating due to overwork is one thing - trying to claim it's because I'm just "bitching" for questioning their filtering policy is quite another. It actually took me by surprise because based on the tone of the threads previously about keeping the list "open to anyone without needing to subscribe", I thought I was dealing with some good 'ol "information wants to be free" types here, not the kinds of anti-spam zealots with the take-no-prisoner attitude who seem to be proliferating so much these days. So I honestly expected people to be more open to other ideas than they appear to be. I can't even get people to give me any kind of detail on exactly what the scope of their measures are. (tried looking in the archives for a discussion of these measures before they were put in place, but couldn't find anything) -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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