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Date:      Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:54:55 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Leif Neland <leifn@neland.dk>
To:        Paul Herman <pherman@frenchfries.net>
Cc:        Vivek Khera <khera@kciLink.com>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: call for testers: init securelevel patch
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0009140652020.32667-100000@arnold.neland.dk>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0009081717590.315-100000@bagabeedaboo.security.at12.de>

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On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Paul Herman wrote:

> On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Vivek Khera wrote:
> 
> > >>>>> "BE" == Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au> writes:
> > 
> > BE> revision 1.9
> > BE> date: 1997/06/25 07:31:47;  author: joerg;  state: Exp;  lines: +2 -2
> > BE> Don't ever allow lowering the securelevel at all.  Allowing it does
> > BE> nothing good except of opening a can of (potential or real) security
> > BE> holes.  People maintaining a machine with higher security requirements
> > BE> need to be on the console anyway, so there's no point in not forcing
> > BE> them to reboot before starting maintenance.
> > 
> > Perhaps one of the secure level restrictions should be that you cannot
> > attach to pid 1 via the debugger.
> 
> You can't.
> 
> Ever since Apr 1997 you couldn't attach gdb to init.
> 
How is that done?
Will gdb not attach to init, or will init not let gdb attach?

If the former, then badguy can just use a custom gdb...

Leif



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