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Date:      Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:08:27 +0000
From:      Adam Laurie <adam@algroup.co.uk>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>, "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: rc.firewall revisited
Message-ID:  <3847C0CB.2E9774A@algroup.co.uk>
References:  <199912021954.LAA74271@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <3846FA12.F1480F19@algroup.co.uk> <199912022343.QAA08462@mt.sri.com> <3847ACBE.3D66A556@algroup.co.uk>

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Adam Laurie wrote:
> 
> Nate Williams wrote:
> >
> > > > ipfw add X pass udp from any to ${dnsserver} 53
> > > > ipfw add X+1 pass udp from ${dnsserver} 53 to any
> > > > ipfw add X+2 deny log udp from any to any 53
> > > > ipfw add X+3 dney log udp from any 53 to any
> > >
> > > This breaks one of the basic rules of firewalling... Trusting traffic
> > > based on source address. To quote from the ipfw manual:
> > >
> > >      Note that may be dangerous to filter on the source IP address or
> > > source
> > >      TCP/UDP port because either or both could easily be spoofed.
> > >
> > > You've just let anyone that can spoof you DNS's source address onto any
> > > UDP port.

And, of course, it also means you are wide open to attack from a
compromised name server. I do not want to trust hosts. I want to trust
specific connections to specific services.

cheers,
Adam
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