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Date:      Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:48:36 +0100
From:      Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Cc:        "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Multi-homing, jails, and source address selection
Message-ID:  <68726DB3-DAC2-4ABB-A1DC-A018992B8EC6@lassitu.de>
In-Reply-To: <49BC2317.3050009@elischer.org>
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Am 14.03.2009 um 22:35 schrieb Julian Elischer:

> Stefan Bethke wrote:
>> Am 14.03.2009 um 19:01 schrieb Bjoern A. Zeeb:
>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Stefan Bethke wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm having some trouble configuring a dual-homed jail host,  
>>>> running -current from about 4 weeks ago.
>>>> ...
>>>> Is there any documentation on how source addresses are selected?  
>>>> I thought I remembered that on unbound sockets the destination  
>>>> route would be used to pick the first address of the outgoing  
>>>> interface as the source address; the same address would be picked  
>>>> on connecting a socket.
>>>
>>> sys/netinet/in_pcb.c:in_pcbladdr() is your friend -
>>> http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/netinet/in_pcb.c#L546
>>>
>>> This is the case you are running into:
>>> http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/netinet/in_pcb.c#L628
>>> /*
>>> * If the outgoing interface on the route found is not
>>> * a loopback interface, use the address from that interface.
>>> * In case of jails do those three steps:
>>> * 1. check if the interface address belongs to the jail. If so use  
>>> it.
>>> * 2. check if we have any address on the outgoing interface
>>> *    belonging to this jail. If so use it.
>>> * 3. as a last resort return the 'default' jail address.
>>> */
>>>
>>> so you are hitting "3." .
>>>
>>> I am not sure but I'd assume
>>>    ifconfig tun0 10.0.63.3 10.0.63.255 alias
>>> would work, just not with the logic to create the IPs upon jail  
>>> start
>>> (and we will not accept patches to handle that;).
>> This is what I figured is happening.
>> For the time being, I've gone back to single-homed; I'm using pf  
>> binat rules to map public ips to the vpn ones for the jails.  Not  
>> perfect, but works for most cases.  (The only really missing option  
>> is to bind a service in the jail to VPN address only, so it's only  
>> accessible over the VPN, but I can enforce that through pf or  
>> hosts.allow.)
>> Assigning aliases to tun0 appears to work too, but you need a  
>> distinct destination address for each alias.  Annoying.
>> Since I'm using "topology subnet" in OpenVPN, a point-to-point  
>> interface is conceptually slightly off; a broadcast interface would  
>> fit much nicer.  This would also allow the standard rc.d/jail  
>> script to do it's magic, if the necessary tun seetings could be  
>> applied through ifconfig.  Is there a specific reason this setting  
>> can only be done through an ioctl on the dev node, instead of  
>> thorugh ifconfig? (Specifically TUNSIFMODE.)
>> Additionally, this open the way to run OpenVPN inside a jail, since  
>> all ifconfig and route setup would be done prior to OpenVPN  
>> starting up.  (tun also down the interface if the dev node is  
>> closed, but I have a feeling that could be mediated somewhat easily  
>> as well.)
>
> One of the things you can do is assign different routing tabels to  
> each jail. This means that tho can control which interface it will
> select as the outgoing interface.
>
> setfib -{0-15} jail (jail args)

I hope to investigate the VIMAGE work soon, but how exactly would that  
help me with multihoming jails?  As it turns out, my issue is with  
source address selection mostly, and the way point-to-point interfaces  
work; the routing table doesn't really come into play?


Stefan

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