Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 16:24:10 -0600 From: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> To: Gregory Sutter <gsutter@pobox.com> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG, "Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav" <smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com> Subject: Re: "Open Source Town Meeting" supports only one faction Message-ID: <35B7B80A.755D8D83@softweyr.com> References: <19980722152643.H15764@notabene.zer0.org> <199807230904.DAA03491@obie.softweyr.com> <19980723025446.D19731@notabene.zer0.org>
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Gregory Sutter wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 1998 at 03:04:00AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
> >
> > Gregory Sutter wrote:
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, this view is incompatible with capitalism. That
> > > doesn't make it something to be reviled. Most people who immediately
> > > ridicule RMS's ideas are never fully cognizant of their implications.
> >
> > Right -- anyone who disagrees with you is obviously too stupid to
> > really understand what he's saying, or too lazy to bother to
> > understand it.
> >
> > Did it ever occur to you that the rest of us may be fully cognizant
> > of the implications of his ideas and STILL reject them as crackpot?
> > Or, did it occur to you that WE now place you in the same category?
>
> I didn't say that you specifically fit into that category. There is
> no way for me to know whether you, or anyone else on the list, had
> glanced at the FSF web pages once or twice, or was RMS's college
> roommate for four years. That's why I stated it as I did. You're
> twisting this as if it was a personal attack, which it wasn't.
You said this in response to my previous email; I had to believe it was
aimed at me as well as others. I did not take it as a personal attack,
but rather as an attack on the ability of myself and others of similar
beliefs to intelligently perceive the intricate insights of RMSism.
> If you want to discuss the FSF's beliefs or the correctness of a
> mandatory donation to them for entrance to an open source convention,
> do so. Don't assume, with an all-inclusive "WE", that everyone else
> on the list is backing your point of view, and _please_ don't descend
> to name-calling.
That is what we are doing, and who are you to be giving advice? If
YOU want to discuss the FSF's beliefs or the IDIOCY of a "mandatory
donation" (look it up, the two words are mutually exclusive), then
argue the points of conversation rather than labelling your opponents
ill-informed, lazy, or just too dim-witted to follow the conversation.
And, DES, when I wrote "WE", I meant "WE who believe that RMS' ideas
on intellectual property are crackpot, and therefore those who follow
along with him must be crackpot too." I neither know nor care wether
you are a member of this set, but will defend to death if necessary
your right to share your ideas with us. ;^)
--
"Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"
Wes Peters Softweyr LLC
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