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Date:      Tue, 18 Feb 1997 06:21:58 -0400 (AST)
From:      The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
To:        David Greenman <dg@root.com>
Cc:        Jason Thorpe <thorpej@nas.nasa.gov>, Christoph Kukulies <kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de>, freebsd-hackers@freefall.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ccd and bounce buffers 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.970218062021.23132e-100000@thelab.hub.org>
In-Reply-To: <199702180929.BAA04915@root.com>

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On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, David Greenman wrote:

> >[ note, this reply is directed more at whomever integrated the ccd
> >  into freebsd, and/or has hacked on it in freebsd since then... ]
> >
> >On Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:13:52 +0100 (MET) 
> > Christoph Kukulies <kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
> >
> > > Is it definite that ccd doesn't work for ISA (be it SCSI or IDE)
> > > due to bounce buffers being required?
> >
> >So, maybe I'm missing how things work in the FreeBSD world, but what
> >on earth does bounce buffers have to do with the ccd?  The ccd is
> >a layered driver, which knows nothing about the underlying component
> >(or, at least, that's how it's _supposed_ to work, and is how it works
> >in NetBSD).
> >
> >Really, any dependency on bounce buffers out side of specific scsi
> >controller drivers is just plain broken.
> 
>    There is no dependency that I know of in FreeBSD. Bounce buffers are
> handled in the generic SCSI layer (via a machine-independant callout), and
> shouldn't be affected by ccd. I don't know where this rumor got started...
>

	From personal experience, when I had tried to create a CCD
device that spanned a PCI/NCR device and an ISA/Adaptec device, the machine
would consitently "blow up" at boot with an error dealing with Bounce Buffers
(this was months ago, so I don't recall the exact error message).  

	Putting two PCI/NCR devices in (which she has now) runs beautifully.
 




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