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Date:      Tue, 25 Jun 2013 12:53:42 +0100
From:      Ben Laurie <ben@links.org>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: pkgng seems to be out of date?
Message-ID:  <CAG5KPzynjtBSfpx19ssbGXK50aoFX%2B_NL9r%2BFm29nKUuJ2D-Dw@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20130625113206.GH75533@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>
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On 25 June 2013 12:32, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:56:46AM +0100, Ben Laurie wrote:
>> On 25 June 2013 11:40, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:36:07AM +0100, Ben Laurie wrote:
>> >> On 25 June 2013 11:31, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:36:14AM +0100, Ben Laurie wrote:
>> >> >> ping?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 22 June 2013 18:46, Ben Laurie <ben@links.org> wrote:
>> >> >> > $ pwd
>> >> >> > /usr/ports/textproc/xml2rfc
>> >> >> > $ make build-depends-list
>> >> >> > /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg
>> >> >> > $ make run-depends-list
>> >> >> > /usr/ports/lang/tcl86
>> >> >> > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/tk86
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > But...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > $ pkg query '%n: %do' xml2rfc
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: textproc/expat2
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: x11-fonts/fontconfig
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: print/freetype2
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: x11/kbproto
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: x11/libX11
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: x11/libXau
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: x11/libXdmcp
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: x11-fonts/libXft
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: x11/libXrender
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: devel/libpthread-stubs
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: x11/libxcb
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: devel/pkgconf
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: x11/renderproto
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: lang/tcl-modules
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: lang/tcl85
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: x11-toolkits/tk85
>> >> >> > xml2rfc: x11/xproto
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > a) Why so many more dependencies, and...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > b) Why different versions of tcl/tk?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > And ... how do I fix it?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > BTW, I use portmaster to maintain my installed ports...
>> >> >
>> >> > That is how the ports tree works for eons, and that can't be fixed until we can
>> >> > totally get rid if pkg_install (to many corner egdes) pkg_install to work
>> >> > properly needs to track fully direct and indirect dependencies, pkg does not,
>> >> > but because the ports tree still need to be compatible with pkg_install and
>> >> > lots of people are still using all habits from the pkg_install time, it is very
>> >> > hard to remove this right now.)
>> >> >
>> >> > But yes for sure this "feature" will get removed :))
>> >>
>> >> So are you saying that pkg includes indirect dependencies, while ports do not?
>> >>
>> > Yes
>> >> But that doesn't explain why pkg says tcl85 and ports says tcl86....
>> >
>> > That is probably a bug of run-depends not discovering you have tcl85 installed
>> > so getting to the default tcl for its dependency which is tcl86.
>>
>> I actually have both installed, so I think the bug is in pkg. I'd like
>> to remove ports I don't need but pkg won't let me remove tcl85, which
>> I think I don't really need...
>
> I think is it a bug in portmaster and/or not having fully follow 20130206 of UPDATING.
>
> pkg only registers dependencies it is being told to register by the ports
> tree/portmaster.
>>
>> How can I force pkg to rebuild its dependencies? Is it even possible?
>
> portmaster -af should do it probably (I'm not a portmaster user)

I just did a portmaster -a, that's how I got into this situation...

What port management tool _does_ work with pkg?

>> Is there any way for pkg to check the integrity of its database?
>>
>
> pkg check -d will do, but imho will find nothing.

# pkg check -d
x11-toolkits/py-wxPython28-common has a missing dependency: lang/tcl-modules
x11-toolkits/py-wxPython28-unicode has a missing dependency: lang/tcl-modules
textproc/xml2rfc has a missing dependency: lang/tcl-modules



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