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Date:      Mon, 23 Oct 1995 17:14:34 -0700
From:      "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org>
To:        =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) <ache@astral.msk.su>
Cc:        "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org>, ache@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>
Subject:   Re: ld.so, LD_NOSTD_PATH, and suid/sgid programs 
Message-ID:  <199510240014.RAA21318@aslan.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 24 Oct 1995 02:58:52 %2B0300." <Gaym2Zmq8S@ache.dialup.demos.ru> 

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>In message <199510232319.QAA21109@aslan.cdrom.com> Justin T. Gibbs
>    writes:
>
>>UN*X systems have clasically given you a shotgun powerfull enough
>>to blow your foot off.  If you are knowledgeable enough to use
>>LD_NOSTD_PATH, then you should know its effects.  Since it is not
>>a security problem, I don't think it should be removed (as I said
>>in other mail on this subject).
>
>Well, but already existen shell scripts, i.e. admin things knows
>nothing about possibility of failing via LD_NOSTD_PATH.
>I.e. when they calls "su -c ..." they assume that this command
>NOT fails. They even disable ^C somethimes to be shure.
>But LD_NOSTD_PATH as very recent addition and I see no one
>script which care of it.

But anyone who sets LD_NOSTD_PATH will not be able to run *anything*
shared unless the have a sane LD_LIBRARY_PATH.  This is not a 
shell script only problem and I don't think the change is appropriate.

>-- 
>Andrey A. Chernov        : And I rest so composedly,  /Now, in my bed,
>ache@astral.msk.su       : That any beholder  /Might fancy me dead -
>http://dt.demos.su/~ache : Might start at beholding me,  /Thinking me dead.
>RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team :         E.A.Poe         From "For Annie" 1849

--
Justin T. Gibbs
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  Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM
  FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations
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