Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:27:24 +0000 () From: "John S. Dyson" <toor@dyson.iquest.net> To: Daniel.M.Obrien@att.com Cc: ejc@naserver1.cb.att.com, pst@shockwave.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, committers@FreeBSD.org, terry@lambert.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Paul's rules of order for committers (Re: -current submitting policys) Message-ID: <199603062127.VAA02388@dyson.iquest.net> In-Reply-To: <9603062141.AA10817@cbsky.cb.att.com> from "Daniel.M.Obrien@att.com" at Mar 6, 96 04:41:51 pm
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> > I guess it is good that the ``fix'' is turned around quickly, but what bothers > me is that I'm left with the feeling that the source submission process > (source tree) is being used as a place to park changes rather than parking > them locally (on developer's system), and compiling & soaking them on the > developer's system. (Thus bending Paul's unwritten rules above.) > Unfortunately, the problem that we have is that each developer has only one, two, and perhaps fortunate ones have three systems to develop on. The VM changes that I added had been run on my system for about 2wks, and sent them to another person for them to use for about 1wk. Problems leak through, and I try to fix the problems that I create very quickly. I have some (evil) soak tests that I run, much worse than the SVR4 tests that I used to run at work (SVR4 would practically stop or break under the load that I put my system under.) -current is not the latest working code, but the latest attempted working code. Those that run -current in production need to track it very carefully and grab stable copies. We don't have a good, formal policy for backing changes out, and I am willing to back the VM changes out in a few days if the system continues to break. In fact, it might be useful to pull a few back one-by-one until the problems go away. AFAIK, -stable is the only "released" code. John
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