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Date:      Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:35:59 -0500
From:      "Mike Avery" <mavery@mail.otherwhen.com>
To:        Alex Zepeda <garbanzo@hooked.net>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Certification...again
Message-ID:  <199907122140.QAA23480@hostigos.otherwhen.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9907121310280.271-100000@zippy.dyn.ml.org>
References:  <199907121912.OAA23345@hostigos.otherwhen.com>

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On 12 Jul 99, at 13:11, Alex Zepeda wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Mike Avery wrote:
 
> > The certifications in question were the MSCE, Oracle and A+ tests. 
> > Overall, whatever their real merits, the MSCE and Oracle certifications
> > do help one get a job.  And the A+ helps, but not as much.
 
> Yes, but aside from publically expressing my disdain that things like
> Tekmetrics exist (and were possibly interested in FreeBSD); I think that
> most certifications are completely bogus.
 
In the end, Tekmetrics will live or die on their own merits, much like 
MindCru^haft.  As will the other certifications.

Are they bogus?  It depends on your needs, and your expectations.  
One very critical issue is... what does it mean to be a 
Unix/Linux/FreeBSD/NT/NetWare/WhatEver administrator?  It 
means different things to different people.  Some admins spend 
most of their days abusing users.  Some spend their days 
constructing and re-constructing servers.  Some specialize in 
communications issues.  And on and on and on.  So, any test will miss 
some areas that you consider essential.  Or that I consider essential. 
 Or both.

As long as well intentioned, capable people have trouble agreeing 
what it means to be a network or system manager, they will also 
have trouble agreeing on what constitutes a meaningful test.

If I were an employer, I'd view certifications much the same way 
that I view college diplomas - as a tangible indication that the person 
applying for the job has been able to learn specific skills well enough 
to pass specific tests, and that this suggests that they will be able to 
learn whatever I need them to know to do the job at hand.  I don't 
view either a diploma or a certification as an indication that someone 
can already do the job.

Mike

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