Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:36:10 +0100 From: Erik Cederstrand <erik@cederstrand.dk> To: Erich Dollansky <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: 7+ days of dogfood Message-ID: <BDF5750D-BC0A-4517-AFBD-CC2F420C4463@cederstrand.dk> In-Reply-To: <20130211190741.379ee35c@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <20130210000723.GA73630@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20130210083010.7df5b997@X220.ovitrap.com> <256C7A7B-DFA7-4C0F-B389-AB10E0DA42D0@cederstrand.dk> <20130211063858.0375a6ed@X220.ovitrap.com> <88F312FE-E783-4C24-8964-BBDE4DE6653E@cederstrand.dk> <20130211190741.379ee35c@X220.ovitrap.com>
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Den 11/02/2013 kl. 13.07 skrev Erich Dollansky = <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com>: > ok, I agree that developers could react faster some times. But, isn't > it more important that the errors are caught at all? Yes. As long as there is no alternative, the best motivation to fix a = bug is when you just spent 20 minutes recovering your laptop from a = crash. I just believe more people would be motivated to run CURRENT if there = was at least some basic runtime resting. Just like the tinderboxes save = developer CPU cycles by saying "Don't bother with this revision, it = doesn't compile", I think runtime tests would save real developer time = by saying "Don't bother with this revision, it doesn't boot" or "Don't = bother with this revision, gcc can't compile hello-world.cpp". Which = doesn't imply that automated testing would catch all errors. > So, the best is still if people like me are eating dog food and start > complaining? >=20 > Do not get me wrong here. I do not complain about the fact that there > might be an error, I want to help poin-point the error with my > complaint. As I started out, I admire the work you and others are doing by running = CURRENT and reporting and fixing errors. At the same time, I look to = e.g. LLVM and their "no commit without a regression test" goal and think = we could do way better :-) Erik=
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