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Date:      Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:28:41 -0800
From:      Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org>
To:        stable@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        ports@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org, portmgr@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Switch to using rc.d for local packages is premature for RELENG_6
Message-ID:  <4420D279.2090405@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <4420D14C.4020503@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <4420D14C.4020503@FreeBSD.org>

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I have just realized that maybe the best approach to address this 
problem would be not reverting the change in question, but making 
find_local_scripts_new() more strict, so that only those local rc.d 
scripts that have been explicitly marked by maintainer as fully 
rc.d-safe are handled in a new way. Checking for '^# PROVIDE:' doesn't 
really work reliably.

-Maxim

Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> As part of testing how well some of our products work with latest 
> RELENG_6, I have make a new build and found that lot of important 
> services (for example PostgreSQL, Apache) doesn't start up (despite 
> having respective xxx_enable entries in /etc/rc.conf) when installed 
> from the freshly updated ports tree onto a clean, freshly updated 
> RELENG_6 system. This is very bad, considering how close to release are 
> we and how much FreeBSD users rely on those services to work OOB.
> 
> I would expect them to be really pissed off when lot of important 
> services just don't work after upgrading their server from 6.0 to 6.1 or 
> after installing it from install cd. This is apparently caused by the 
> fact that lot of rc.d scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d are newstyle one 
> now (sufficiently newstyle to pass find_local_scripts_new check), but 
> few of them were actually tested to work correctly in fully rc.d 
> environment.
> 
> Therefore, I think that the RELENG_6 should be reverted to using old 
> stuff and it should be left for 7.x tree.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Maxim
> 




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