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Date:      Sun, 08 Sep 2002 20:54:54 -0400
From:      Lawrence Sica <lomifeh@earthlink.net>
To:        "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG, dave@jetcafe.org, Joshua Lee <yid@softhome.net>, Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.ORG>, Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, George Reid <george.reid@oriel.ox.ac.uk>
Subject:   Re: Why did evolution fail?
Message-ID:  <C14F507B-C38E-11D6-8C5E-000393A335A2@earthlink.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020908174226.B80977-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan>

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On Sunday, September 8, 2002, at 08:46  PM, Neal E. Westfall wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, George Reid wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 04:56:52PM -0700, Neal E. Westfall wrote:
>>
>>> By the way, only Christianity can account for what you note above,
>>> that no religion give us a comprehensive understanding of God.  The
>>> Christian doctrine of God's incomprehensibility takes this into
>>> account.
>>
>> Oh, come on.  Islam, for one, also asserts the incomprehensibility of
>> Allah.  f.e, Ta-Ha 20:110: "He knows their past and their future, 
>> while none
>> encompasses His knowledge."  Islamic fiqh states that "his true nature
>> cannot be described by anyone nor can thinkers imagine that nature" 
>> and
>> "to know Him one considers His signs, but one does not think about His
>> essence."  See also Dr. Samuel Zwemer's "The Moslem Doctrine of God".
>
> Actually the Islamic doctrine of mukhalafa says that it Allah is *so*
> different from his creatures that it is impossible to postulate 
> anything
> about him at all.  But then what is the Koran if not an attempt to do
> this?  In addition, Islam falsifies itself, since the Koran recognizes
> the Torah and the Christian scriptures as true revelations from God, 
> yet
> claims that Christ did not raise from the dead.  The Koran contradicts
> itself.
>

And what about the Christian writings that state tolerance for the 
sinners above all?  And then in the same breathe condemns gays, 
justified slavery via the bible, justifies wars now and the killing of 
abortionists?  Every religion has it's contradictions, Islam isnt 
special here.  And What is the exact wording the koran uses?  Are you 
sure you are interpreting it correctly?  That's the great thing about 
any religious writing, its "divine inspiration"  but then man is left 
to decipher it's meaning....

--Larry


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