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Date:      Sat, 3 Dec 2005 17:37:14 +0100
From:      Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
To:        ticso@cicely.de
Cc:        Peter Jeremy <PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au>, src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/ic via6522reg.h
Message-ID:  <20051203163714.GA7525@freebie.xs4all.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20051203144824.GB1040@cicely12.cicely.de>
References:  <200512022236.jB2MaEI8090052@repoman.freebsd.org> <20051202233249.GA1299@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20051202234929.GI44012@cicely12.cicely.de> <20051203060516.GM32006@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> <20051203144824.GB1040@cicely12.cicely.de>

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On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 03:48:25PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote..
> On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 05:05:16PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> > On Sat, 2005-Dec-03 00:49:30 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote:
> > >Mmmm - very interesting stuff - I used the 6522 as well as the 6821
> > >on many self build 6502 and 68k based systems.
> > ...
> > >But honestly - I wasn't aware that a modern computer system still uses
> > >them.
> > 
> > You means things like nec765, i8237, NS8250, i8259, MC146818?  One of
> 
> No - I especially mean the 6522.
> I grow up with C64 and C128 plus my first self build computers used
> them, so there's a special relation.
> 
> > my work colleagues was surprised to discover that his brand new
> > computer still uses peripheral chips (embedded in ASICs) that were
> > designed before he was born...  Isn't backward compatibility a
> > wonderful thing :-)
> 
> Only sometimes, we all know the bad sides with e.g. 8259 in modern
> systems.
> 
> > At least back then the IC vendors would publish programming details...
> 
> And by moving them to ASICs also add more bugs...
> I'm always surprised if someone manages to write a nec765 driver that
> runs on all chips.
> 
> PS: to complete your list you'll have to add the 6845, 8254 and 8042.

You forgot the 6850 ACIA. 

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Wilko Bulte				wilko@FreeBSD.org



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