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Date:      Sat, 07 Feb 1998 10:59:23 -0600
From:      David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
To:        Andreas Braukmann <braukmann@tse-online.de>
Cc:        freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: seagate ST-410800N O 
Message-ID:  <199802071659.KAA20303@nospam.hiwaay.net>
In-Reply-To: Message from Andreas Braukmann <braukmann@tse-online.de>  of "Sat, 07 Feb 1998 13:54:54 %2B0100." <19980207135454.35617@paert.tse-online.de> 

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Andreas Braukmann writes:
>
> currently I'm looking for reasonable priced (really) mass-storage.
> (top-notch performance not required)
> 
> I have the opportunity to get my hands on a few Seagate Elite ST-410800N
> disks. What about the overall quality of this drive?
>   - power consumption
>   - cooling requirements
>   - expected lifetime
> The drives would be connected to AHA2940s and Symbioslogic 875-based 
> host-adapters running under FreeBSD (stable / current) and
> (... ugggh, ... Netware 4.1)

The first year or so of production of ST-410800N's (hmm: I don't think
that number is quote right, ST418000N maybe? ST4108000N?) we had saw
100% failure rate. Eventually the replacements held up. Not sure it was
the only change but I think the good drives have firmware 0025. The
failure mode was the drive was dead if power was interupted in service.
No bad blocks or anything like that, just nothing on the SCSI bus. We
became terrified of turning them off. Once running they were fine.

You know that is a monster 5-1/4" drive? Needs lots of cooling and
power.

IMHO you would be better off with either an ST19171W or IBM DCHS09. 
Street prices have plumetted to under $800. IBM DCAS 34330 drives are 
around $300 (only 4G) but are faster than many 7200 RPM drives and 
quieter than anything. Two of those would be better and cheaper than 
one 9G drive. Maybe not total less power than a 9G.

With the IBM DCHS09 watch out because the same drive was sold in Ultra
and Fast versions. Probably you would rather have Ultra. I think the 
DCAS drive was only sold in Ultra.

A couple of ST19171W's arrived at work this week. $799 each from 
http://www.insight.com and each included an internal wide SCSI cable. 
Now we have about 25 of them.


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David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net
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