Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:23:17 -0500 From: Steve Brown <gtabug@prayforwind.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: high speed internet connection and lesstif question Message-ID: <20011122202317.A1106@prayforwind.com> In-Reply-To: <006f01c1739e$2e2b6f30$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca>; from matt@gsicomp.on.ca on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 04:39:34PM -0500 References: <Pine.GSO.4.40.0111221215090.19676-100000@algernon.csd.uwo.ca> <000d01c17381$94666b00$7301a8c0@eagle.ca> <000c01c17393$fd7255c0$660f129f@bro5637> <3.0.5.32.20011122151000.010034b0@mail.sage-american.com> <006f01c1739e$2e2b6f30$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca>
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Anybody seen this work on GENERIC first hand? If so, it should be possible to connect to 'net PPPoE at install time. I tried before, but I had to 1'st ftp base system + source over dialup using 4.4-RELEASE I'll try it in fact... Steve On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 04:39:34PM -0500, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > There is a long and convoluted explanation for that. I may be a bit off, > but Brian Somers cleared me up on a lot of things wrt this earlier on this > week, so here's everything in one place for the benefit of the archives. > > In the beginning, you had to have 'options NETGRAPH' in the kernel to use > any of the netgraph widgets, and widgets could be dynamically loaded when > you needed them. (So, for PPPoE, it would dyanmically load the pppoe, > socket and ether widgets, with the base netgraph module being part of the > kernel.) This worked just fine in 3.4-RELEASE, but broke in 4.0-RELEASE > (and remains so.) > > The handbook was then updated to say that you needed to have all four > netgraph options compiled into your kernel. This would ensure that it would > never have to dynamically load modules and bail out. > > Somewhere after 4.0-REL (between 4.2-REL and 4.3-REL?), the FreeBSD gods > made some changes so 'options NETGRAPH' *wasn't* required in your kernel > anymore - it too could be loaded dynamically. So if you didn't have > anything in your kernel and wanted to use PPPoE, the 'ppp' program would > dynamically load the required modules and all would be well. > > In summary, to use PPPoE now, you don't need to modify your kernel -- > everything will be loaded on the fly. However, if you want to have the > support statically-linked in your kernel, be sure to add all 4 required > components for PPPoE, otherwise you'll have problems. > > -- > Matt Emmerton > > > <snip> > > Really? This is still goofy? I re-read over the PPPoE section in the > > handbook and was happy to see you could just run with it without > compiling. > > I wonder why the handbook would suggest recompiling the kernel with the > four > > options is not required when you say it is? Odd. > > <snip> > > > > Ver 4.4 (and I believe 4.3) will indeed take care of the NETGRAPH stuff, > > but has to load it on the fly if not compiled into the kernel.... prior ro > > 4.3, I believe it HAS to be compiled. > > > > At 03:39 PM 11.22.2001 -0500, ScaryG wrote: > > >> I believe your [Fuji Zhang's] best bet is to forget the USB, > > >> part with you're $25 -> $30 (CDN) and pick up an > > >> ethernet card. Make sure it's on this list: > > >> > > >> > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RELEASE/HARDWARE.TXT > > > > > > Couldn't agree more! > > > > > >> A few good reasons to stick with Ethernet: > > >> > > >> - It will also work with a cable modem if you decide to try Rogers/Shaw > > >> - or any other ISP's DSL package > > >> - If you decide to share the connection with more than 1 computer via > BB > > >> router (Link-Sys, SMC Barricade, etc) you'll already be prepared. These > > >> goodies cost under $140 CDN and you get the benefit of an IP firewall > as > > >> well. > > > > > > More good info. I often wondered if I should have just broke down and > > >bought a Netgear RT314 and saved me some grief configuring my FreeBSD box > > >but hey, I had all the stuff here and it didn't cost me anything but > time. I > > >have two NICS in my box in which the second feeds a hub and my other > > >machines. > > > > > > But for those not willing to goof around with NAT and IPFW in addition > to > > >trying PPPoE the Internet Gateway gadgets are a nice idea. > > > > > >> ScaryG has it right about the ppp.conf and kernel config. I -did- have > to > > >> re-compile my 4.4 kernel to get it to work, the handbook does appear to > be > > >> wrong on this. > > > > > > Really? This is still goofy? I re-read over the PPPoE section in the > > >handbook and was happy to see you could just run with it without > compiling. > > >I wonder why the handbook would suggest recompiling the kernel with the > four > > >options is not required when you say it is? Odd. > > > > > > Oh well, rock on with your bad self. > > > > > >-- > > >I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. > > >Tomorrow isn't looking good either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > Jack L. Stone, > > Server Admin > > > > Sage-American > > http://www.sage-american.com > > jacks@sage-american.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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