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Date:      Sun, 1 Sep 2002 16:41:49 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Peter Leftwich <Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com>
To:        Adam Weinberger <adam@vectors.cx>
Cc:        FreeBSD LIST <FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.Org>
Subject:   Re: layers and layers of windows managers
Message-ID:  <20020901163321.M37627-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020901194614.GH56964@vectors.cx>

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On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Adam Weinberger wrote:

Adam, you are super, major, happily knowledgeable and HELPFUL.  I hope you
don't mind my continued questions?

> if you wish to keep using gnome and just change which window manager
> starts up, open the gnome control center (bin/gnomecc) and modify the
> "Window Manager" page of the "Desktop" category.

I wish to keep using Gnome (I guess) but startkde seemed much simpler (as
used a few weeks ago), and KDE 2.2.2 because I couldn't figure out how to
upgrade to 3.0.1 if it wasn't a pkg_add nor a /stand/sysinstall :)

When you say "open the gnome control center," can this be done from a
textual environment?  That is, I am command line only until I can figure
this out -- it is beyond me why when I run "startx" I get the standard
error message about my DHCP hostname and how it should be added to
/etc/hosts then one desktop wallpaper (path found in ~/.gnome/Background)
then a different one which covers that one completely then just a cursor
and nothing more.  Ctrl-Alt-Backspace!

> alternatively, edit ~/.gnome/default.wm and put the windowmanager in > there.
> [Default]
> WM=/usr/X11R6/bin/metacity
> or whatever.

I didn't have this default.wm file so I created one with your sample
contents above - it didn't work.  By the way, I also have a ~/.gnome2/
directory.  Does this matter?

> if you don't wish to run gnome at all, then just edit your .xinitrc file
> and change the exec line to something else. that file is a script. i'm
> attaching mine.

I'll keep trying Gnome, it seems quite popular.  I just haven't found out
which windows manager(s) are most popular -- if any of them have some kind
of start button or icon in the lower left, I'm sold!  *grins*

> if you're running startx, all you need is an .xinitrc file. i typically
> just link .xinitrc and .xsession. if something is spawning multiple root

Symlink the two?

> images, just search for them recursively.
> ~/$ for i in image1.jpg image2.jpg; grep -r $i \.*
> -Adam

Wait wait, what does the above do?  And thanks for the .xinitrc file below
- It may serve SUPER ULTRA useful later, especially getting xmodmap to use,
accept, and understand the "Windows" key on my keyboard!  Now if only I
could get imwheel (port) and my Logitech Cordless Wheel Mouse scroll wheel
working in Mozilla ;-)

Thanks again Adam for all your assistance,
-Peter

> ======================begin .xinitrc
> xhost +&
> # not the best idea, but it's a laptop, and 6000 is blocked by ipfw
> # anyhow
> xmodmap /monkey/.xmodmaprc &
>
> # invoke with WM= to change windowmanagers. WM=kde starts KDE, WM=bob
> # starts "bob" even though it isn't in the list below, and leaving out
> # the WM= term just starts the default. i am very close to sneezing on
> # this keyboard.
>
> case $WM in
> 	kde)
> #KDE desktop system bloat thang
> 		exec startkde
> 		;;
> 	enlightenment)
> #enlightenment
> 		sleep 8 && NO_PROMPT=1 Eterm -C -g 100x20+0-0 -q -x --no-cursor \
> 			--cmod-red=256 --cmod-green=256 --cmod-blue=256 &
> 		exec enlightenment
> 		;;
> 	'sawfish')
> #sawfish
> 		sleep 12 && NO_PROMPT=1 Eterm -C -g 100x20+0+990 -q -x --no-cursor \
> 			--cmod-red='256 256 256' --cmod-blue="256 256 256" \
> 			--cmod-green="256 256 256" --font=snap -f white &
> #sleep 120 && xpenguins -t Lemmings -t "The Simpsons" \
> #-t "Sonic the Hedgehog" -s &
> 		sleep 120 && xpenguins -t Lemmings -t "The Simpsons" \
> 		-t "Sonic the Hedgehog" &
> 		mouseclock -bd 2&
> 		exec gnome-session
> 		;;
> 	'fluxbox')
> #fluxbox
> 	appletproxy /usr/local/share/apps/kicker/applets/knewsticker.desktop \
> 		--geometry 1600x27+0+1148&
> 	xpenguins -t "Sonic the Hedgehog" &
> 	bbpager -w &
> 	wmfmixer &
> 	exec fluxbox
> 	;;
> 	'windowmaker')
> #windowmaker
> 	xbindkeys &
> #	LD_PRELOAD=/usr/X11R6/lib/libgdkxft.so exec wmaker
> 	exec wmaker
> 	;;
> 	'')
> #default
> #fvwm
> 	Esetroot -s /home/images/root/TreasureNap.jpg &
> 	exec fvwm
> 	;;
> 	*)
> #else
> 		exec $WM
> 		;;
> esac
>
> ============================end .xinitrc
> --
> "Oh good, my dog found the chainsaw."
>         -Lilo, "Lilo & Stitch"
> Adam Weinberger
> adam@vectors.cx
> http://vectors.cx

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