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Date:      Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:13:26 +0000
From:      "Aryeh Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
To:        "Michael Dean" <mdean@sourceview.com>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Can the following license be used for ported programs?
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you more then welcome to join in on the conversation... right now due
to the dns issue sited in the original posting we are doing it via a
manual mailing list (cc everyone else) [I think that should be
partially fixed by tomorrow afternoon].... given that if you send any
mail to the SIW community it should be addressed to all of the
following:

aryeh.friedman@gmail.com
henry.pijffers@gmail.com
stephane@jahia.com
marius@amado-alves.info

So you don't sound too much like a newbie I recommend the following
background articles and links:

http://www.softdevelcoop.org/o.openMailingList.htm (Mailing list
archives up to the start of Miai)

http://www.softdevelcoop.org/ (precursor to Miai)

http://www.sustainablesoftware.info/jahia/Jahia (Stephen's take on the
software portion of sustainability)

http://www.sustainablesoftware.info/jahia/page421.html (historical
essay that got some of us interested in what became SIW [I came to it
in a different route])

http://www.methodsandtools.com/PDF/mt200402.pdf (detailed theoretical
examination of Jahia's business model)


--Aryeh


On 9/24/07, Michael Dean <mdean@sourceview.com> wrote:
>
>  great, then why open the conversation up to plebs like me?
>
>  Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>  On 9/24/07, Michael Dean <mdean@sourceview.com> wrote:
>
>
>  many people feel much differently, why not just a pure proprietary license
> then, rather than proliferating Yet Another Silly License which is not
> tempered by sound legal analysis.
>
>  Not to be insulting but I don't think you read my 1st blog entry as I
> suggested (at least the first paragraph... specifically where I say
> both open and closed source are equally the wrong model). Now onto
> your actual points:
>
> The license has received legal review by an IP attorney.
>
> Again not to be insulting but I think most FOSS people slept through
> econ 101, especially the section on there is no such thing as a
> limitless resource. Even though you might consider this to be a
> conflict of interest; I have a family member who is a prof. of econ at
> UC Santa Cruz and has reviewed the economic aspects of both my
> specific work and the general concept of SIW (see second blog entry
> for definition). His general conclusion is while the model is untried
> on a large scale and there are some more minor things we can improve
> on (subject of debate within the SIW community) that we fix many of
> the economic flaws with both open and closed source models. He is
> currently in the process of writing a book on the matter and said he
> would have a full review after rewriting ch8 (which is on the economic
> issues raised by both models) in a few weeks.
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