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Date:      Thu, 22 Jan 2015 06:29:46 -0500
From:      Randall Stewart <rrs@lakerest.net>
To:        Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>
Cc:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r277213 - in head: share/man/man9 sys/kern sys/ofed/include/linux sys/sys
Message-ID:  <88A39F5F-A9F4-432F-8BAB-9393DAA8F36A@lakerest.net>
In-Reply-To: <54C0B75B.9070305@selasky.org>
References:  <201501151532.t0FFWV2Y037455@svn.freebsd.org> <CAJ-Vmok0GXZoojyi=jE=b5D-d338APztaf3Pw0_AAQ-173XSWw@mail.gmail.com> <54BDD9E1.6090505@selasky.org> <20150120075126.GA42409@kib.kiev.ua> <54BE0AAA.4050104@selasky.org> <20150120090057.GD42409@kib.kiev.ua> <54BE21F0.6010602@selasky.org> <7C692107-51CF-4DFA-BD6C-623D56893150@bsdimp.com> <54C0A352.8090701@selasky.org> <20150122081023.GT42409@kib.kiev.ua> <54C0B75B.9070305@selasky.org>

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Hans

Thats great, could you please open a project branch that
we can look at it in too?

I would very much appreciate that. Sometimes I like to look
at the whole code with it all in place (not just patches) and a project
branch really helps with that.

R
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 AM, Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org> =
wrote:
>=20
> On 01/22/15 09:10, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 08:14:26AM +0100, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
>>> On 01/22/15 06:26, Warner Losh wrote:
>>>  >
>>>>> The code simply needs an update. It is not broken in any ways - =
right? If it is not broken, fixing it is not that urgent.
>>>>=20
>>>> Radically changing the performance characteristics is breaking the =
code. Performance regression in the TCP stack is urgent to fix.
>>=20
>>> Not being able to enumerate what all the consumers are that use this =
and
>>> provide an analysis about why they aren?t important to fix is a bug =
in
>>> your process, and in your interaction with the project. We simply do =
not
>>> operate that way.
>> Right, I completely agree with this statement.
>>=20
>>=20
>>> Hi,
>>>=20
>>> My plan is to work out a patch for the TCP stack today, which only
>>> change the callout_init() call or its function. This should not need =
any
>>> particular review. I'll let adrian test and review, because I think =
he
>>> is closer to me timezone wise and you're standing on my head saying =
its
>>> urgent. If he is still not happy, I can back my change out. Else it
>>> remains in -current AS-IS.
>> TCP regresssion was noted, so it is brought in front.  There is =
nothing
>> else which makes TCP issue different from other (hidden) issues.
>>=20
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D
>>> MFC to 10-stable I can delay for sure until
>>> all issues you report to me are fixed.
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D
>>=20
>> Sigh, you still do not understand.  It is your duty to identify all =
pieces
>> which break after your change.  After that, we can argue whether each =
of
>> them is critical or not to allow the migration. But this must have =
been
>> done before the KPI change hit the tree.
>>=20
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> Are you saying that pieces of code that runs completely unlocked using =
"volatile" as only synchronization mechanism is better than what I would =
call a temporary and hopefully short TCP stack performance loss?
>=20
> I don't understand? How frequently do you reboot your boxes? Maybe one =
every day? And you don't care?
>=20
> --HPS
>=20
>=20
>=20

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Randall Stewart
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