Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 10:10:18 -0553.75 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> To: FreeBSD Ports ML <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Removing documentation Message-ID: <56BA0E20.3080706@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <CA%2BE3k922a91bsx1gh=pcx4S7q_L%2BeR=ezbdWZ6HaimmGqjX=BA@mail.gmail.com> References: <E1aT6jw-000MGn-1T@pandora.amnic.net> <56B9D609.6030407@marino.st> <56B9EDC7.1010403@ohlste.in> <56B9F2D6.1090107@marino.st> <56BA01ED.7000504@ohlste.in> <CA%2BE3k922a91bsx1gh=pcx4S7q_L%2BeR=ezbdWZ6HaimmGqjX=BA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 02/09/16 09:56, Royce Williams wrote: > IMO, this entire thread is masking a deeper symptom: FreeBSD > ports/packages management is fragmented. > > Each unofficial tool treats some symptoms well, and others poorly. > The fact that I have to use the phrase "ports/packages" is indicative > of a deep schizophrenia. > > Don't get me wrong -- I love the flexibility of choosing a package or > a port. And I'm all for having choices. But people should not be > choosing ways to manage core software management functions. > > Ideally, users could choose among different UIs/wrappers around the > core of a port/package management system. The things that each tool > has to do -- the database of current installs, dependency management, > etc. -- should not be reinvented by each tool. They should be shared > infrastructure that is part of the OS (like Debian's dpkg/apt system). > > A unified framework: > > * would make it easy for small-scale admins to install basic packages > with sane defaults > > * would resolve dependencies sanely > > * would allow software maintainers to capture the manual steps > currently stored in /usr/ports/UPDATING, and apply them in an > automated/guided fashion > > * would support building and distributing your own packages > > * would be part of the base OS and documented accordingly > > > Until this fragmentation is resolved , we'll be having this discussion > every few months, users will keep shooting themselves in the foot ... > and keep being incented to go elsewhere. > > We need to capture users' reasons for preferring specific frameworks, > and build a roadmap to how they could be unified. > > Royce > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" *Huzzah* !!!! I hereby 2nd that motion (from the cheap seats) :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
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