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Date:      Tue, 17 Dec 1996 19:00:01 +1000
From:      Andrew Perry <andrew@shoal.net.au>
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   [Fwd: Re: SOS for a Freebsd instalation]
Message-ID:  <32B66111.100F@shoal.net.au>

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tried to send this to you but it was returned with "no such local user" 
so i'll post it to the list, hopefully you'll see it and if i've made a 
mistake someone will correct me

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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:12:53 +1000
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To: Dirk Hans Krakaur Floranes <dkrakavr@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx>
Subject: Re: SOS for a Freebsd instalation
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mate, i've just been through the same thing. you need the bin files in 
/bin on the floppies and make sure that the following files are on the 
first diskette:

A:\BIN\BIN.INF
A:\BIN\INSTALL.SH
A:\BIN\CHECKSUM.MD5

and maybe

A:\BIN\BIN.MTREE

i didn't experiment too much but the first two i think were definitely 
needed on the first disk, you don't have to have 5 bin.a? files on each 
disk either (although they will fit with these 3 files) as long as they 
are in order.

hope this helps
let me know how you go

andrew perry
andrew@shoal.net.au

Dirk Hans Krakaur Floranes wrote:
> 
> ok, this is a bigone so readit if you have time...
> 
> this is a (REAL) history of a friend of my called johny 5
> and its obsesion whit a failed intent of installing
> freebsd 2.1.5.
> 
> like 4 months ago jonhy and a freind called jimbo,
> tried to install freebsd 2.1.5 in the jimbo's
> "pentium-166-16-ram-1.6-gigabyte-windows-95-equiped"
> computer...
> 
> they didnt have enougth money to bougth the cd so they
> downloded the system from one of the ftp of freebsd.org
> in brazil.
> 
> they downloaded the boot4.flp fixit.flp and all the
> /bin subdirectory
> 
> and for some reason the boot.flp didnt function so they
> used the boot4.flp and evrythings was going so far so
> good until they discover thath didnt have space for
> another partition.. they didn't know of the fips utility
> so after a week they get 23 diskettes & backup all
> in the backup was all the bin.?? files and some of the
> information that jimbo didnt want to loose...
> 
> so they runed again the boot.flp that they already have
> rawrite in a disk.. the from the partitions
> utility in the novice window of the installation
> program they erased all of the dos partition and then settled
> 300 megabytes for a partition of freebsd...
> then they reiniciated formated the rest of the disk
> installed installed windows 95 filesystem only from a boot disk
> with the A:> sys c: command , and
> with A:>pkunzip -d freebsd.zip c: they restored the backup
> then
> they formated all the 20 diskettes
> whit the C:>format a: /u
> they was specialy carefull in that none
> of it had a bad cluster or something
> in this case they used another...
> all the diskettes was perfect and formated
> so they created the bin subdirectory in each one
> and copied in it the bin files.
> 5 bin in each one...
> exactly like the instalation.txt indicates
> 
> evrything was going well and they was very (i mean very)
> ilusioneted, motivated,
> all this proccess took like five or 6 hours since the begging
> until then... then the bug came out...
> it was the worst thing that you could imagine.
> the most frustrating one.
> all the installation process was going well...
> the partition, the labeling / they read it all the menus
> so they worked well whit evrything
> in the media the chosee flopy disks set
> in the distribution the one marked as bin.
> and then it happen
> evrything was going well until the menu
> "please insert the flopy disk"
> they inserted the first diskette whit the
> A:\BIN\BIN.AA
> A:\BIN\BIN.AB
> A:\BIN\BIN.AC
> A:\BIN\BIN.AD
> A:\BIN\BIN.AE
> files in the drive and then hit the enter
> whit sweat int he face and the heart pumping.
> and a menu that says
> 
> "Couldn't extract the following distributions
> this maybe becouse they were not available on
> the instalation media you have chosen"
> bin
> 
> they were fully determined so they tried evrything
> from changing the directory of a:\bin
> to a:\dist
> & then to a:\dist\bin, a:\bin.aa, a:\freebsd\bin
> a:\freebsd
> i mean evrything
> then they tried installing from a msdos partition
> they created the C:\FREEBSD\BIN directory
> and then copied the bin files to it
> the same thing happen.
> the same awful menu.
> 
> the worst was that the instalation program
> didnt find a kernel image to link so they have
> to boot from the flopies constantly
> 
> after a few hours triying they give it up
> and tried whit the fixit flopie
> 
> the floppie replied whit a #
> 
> and they didn't know enougth unix to fixit..
> 
> after all they didn't have been root's never.
> so they give up heartbrokenly.
> 
> that was 4 months ago...
> the last week jhony tried in his own computer the
> same thing... this time he had readit all of the
> install.txt and most of the freebsd online handbook in fact.
> so whit the fips utility he created another partion
> of 480 megabytes in the 1.6 Gb (IDE) of his
> pentium /133 24-ram computer
> and tried exactly the same thing.
> and exactly the same thing happened:
> 
> he had downloaded the fips. the boot.flp, fixit.flp
> and bin.aa to bin.ee from ftp mirror #2 in a near
> computer that had internet conection,
> compressed put it back in home uncompresed and installed.
> the version was again the 2.1.5 &
> this time he had special careful in formating the
> diskkets from a ms-dos (6.22) based machine.
> (this time the boot.flp works well
> and the help files where available
> something that wasn't in the boot4.flp)
> 
> and exactly the same thing happened...
> he tried again changing the ms-dos subdirectorys
> and installing from a ms-dos partition
> there where no diferrence.
> 
> but
> 
> this time johny 5 was fully determined.
> he find a old unix SVR5 reference manual
> put the fixit floppie inside and tried for over 12
> continuos hours to learn enough unix to make the install
> proccess from the hostile # prompt.
> 
> he tried mounting and umounting, making nfs to the hard
> disk, whit fsck, changing the path removing the floppie
> & trying of copy the kernel from the boot..
> 
> then mounting the ms-dos partition and coping
> the bin. files to a new bin directory in /dev/wd0s2 mounted
> as /mnt
> 
> and then trying to uncompress it with restore & rrestore
> the with gunzip, whit zcat
> 
> he look evrywhere for a command
> like the 'sys' of ms-dos
> so he dont have to boot from floppie
> 
> some of this functioned... but none enougth to install
> the bin files or to link the kernel in the hard disk
> 
> he become obsesionated whit it and since then he is still
> trying but now had become pale and thin.
> he didnt ate or drink nothing or almost nothing, if some
> one speaks to him he didn't answer
> or says something about 'the kernel'
> im worried about im and his live
> so i decided to write this letter to those fellows in
> freebsd.org that surely could help.
> what should johny do
> where was the mistake?
> in compressing the files at the beggining?
> should he downloaded it again and try it all?
> its a bug in the installation program?
> should the bin files go in another subdirectory?
> i mean it was in a:\bin
> should it be in a:\dist? or something
> its a bug in the instalation program?
> are somewhere a procedure to install the kernel
> and the all the system in the hard disk trougth
> the fixit # prompt ?
> and finally...
> to install freebsd, what should he done?


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