Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:17:33 +0100 From: "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" <gelderen@mediaport.org> To: "Steve Kargl" <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Cc: <hackers@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Fortran in the base system (was Re: sysinstall) Message-ID: <002101be28ee$0fb4fec0$1400000a@deskfix.local>
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From: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
>A 33% increase in execution time doesn't seem like a good justification?
It certainly isn't a good justification for putting Fortran in the base
system. The majority of users never uses fortran and as long as that is the
case, Fortran doesn't belong in the base system.
>1. g77 is designed with knowledge of the FSF backend. This permits
[...]
>5. g77 contains many extensions to the deprecated Fortran 77 standard
> that are commonly found in commerical products (i.e., Fortran code
> port much easier).
See above.
>6. M. Smith said --> "easily-installable and easily-upgradeable port".
> Ha Ha Ha.
>
> head -4 /usr/ports/lang/g77/Makefile
> # New ports collection makefile for: GNU Fortran
> # Version required: 0.5.19.1
> # Space required: >= 10MB
> # Date created: Wed Mar 22 18:51:05 MET 1995
>
> This is ancient. The current version is 0.5.24.
Yes, it's ancient. That probably means that nobody is interested in creating
a port for Fortran. But that doesn't mean Fortran should go into the base
system. It means that the port should be fixed.
>7. An egcs port works. But, everyone who does any number crunching will
> be wasting large amounts a disk space because of the massive redundancy
> in /usr/{bin,lib,share/{info,man}} and
/usr/local/{bin,lib,info,share/man}
Fortran in the base system would require everybody to waste diskspace on
Fortran. Your egcs waste wouldn't be much more than a couple of 100 MBs. If
you can't accept that, please step forward and create a decent port. Or try
and find someone on the list who can help you out.
Cheers,
Jeroen
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