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Date:      Wed, 15 Jan 2014 13:39:03 -0500
From:      Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
To:        Darren Pilgrim <list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD Errata Notice FreeBSD-EN-14:01.random
Message-ID:  <52D6D5C7.80200@sentex.net>
In-Reply-To: <52D6BF9C.8070405@bluerosetech.com>
References:  <201401142011.s0EKBoi7082738@freefall.freebsd.org> <52D6BF9C.8070405@bluerosetech.com>

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On 1/15/2014 12:04 PM, Darren Pilgrim wrote:
> 
> 1. If you're on "bare metal", the attacker has firmware-level or
> physical access to the machine;
> 2. If you're on a hypervisor, you can't trust the hypervisor;
> 
> In both cases, I would think the attacker can use much simpler, more
> direct vectors and you have much worse things to worry about than the
> quality of /dev/random.  I'm not questioning the validity of the
> advisory, I'm genuinely curious about this.  I can't think of a scenario
> were someone could attack /dev/random using this vector without 1 or 2
> above also being true.

Say you have a physical tap on the network upstream from the victim. The
victim is exchanging data across a VPN. You can capture the encrypted
traffic, and knowing there is a weakness in the quality of RNG, more
easily decode the encrypted traffic.  You dont have to worry about
sending "extra" traffic from the host say, by poking around in /dev/mem
etc.

	---Mike



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