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Date:      Sat, 26 Jan 2002 15:02:29 -0600
From:      jacks@sage-american.com
To:        "Joe & Fhe Barbish" <barbish@a1poweruser.com>
Cc:        "FBSD Questions" <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Doug Reynolds" <mav@wastegate.net>
Subject:   RE: Apache_FP ?
Message-ID:  <3.0.5.32.20020126150229.01831ca0@mail.sage-american.com>
In-Reply-To: <LPBBIGIAAKKEOEJOLEGOKENHCNAA.barbish@a1poweruser.com>
References:  <3.0.5.32.20020126142238.01831ca0@mail.sage-american.com>

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Joe: I have never set up anyone's $HOME directory in any of our
websites.... we use vhosts where each one is a "root web" under the
<VirtualHost> setups of apache httpd.conf.

At 03:54 PM 1.26.2002 -0500, Joe & Fhe Barbish wrote:
>So are you saying that if I code ~/username in a apache
>declaratives in hhtpd.conf, apache will know it really
>is at  /usr/home/username  and if I coded /username
>apache would know it's really at /usr/local/www/data/username?
>
>Could you post a example of the declaratives in hhtpd.conf
>that would create one of each kind?
>
>Would web site content created by mswindows FrontPage 2000 client,
>that was ftp downloaded from the Winbox into a apache server that
>does not have the FP_mod installed still work?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
>jacks@sage-american.com
>Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 3:23 PM
>To: Joe & Fhe Barbish
>Cc: Doug Reynolds; FBSD Questions
>Subject: RE: Apache_FP ?
>
>The ~/username (with tilde) is a ~/userhome directory of an #adduser to the
>system. The other is any name of a directory which can also be named after
>an existing user, but is NOT the same as the user's $HOME directory.
>
>You can FTP files & subdirectories to a web created by FrontPage, BUT
>FrontPage keeps an index of all stuff kept in its webs and wants to know
>about them. For instance, FPage keeps track of links should you move a
>linked file, it will ask it you want it to be changed.
>
>Thus, IF you are going to make use of FrontPage to make webs, it's best to
>use FrontPage to transfer files so it can keep track. Also, you can edit
>files directly on the live web thru FP. Then, publish the web back to your
>local machine. It will publish both ways (only changed pages if you desire
>to save time). If you are going to author web pages locally and primarily
>use FTP to upload, then there's not much reason to use FP.....
>
>At 03:07 PM 1.26.2002 -0500, Joe & Fhe Barbish wrote:
>>Ok, so yes Is the answer to my original question.
>>But reading this thread you talk about /~username  and /username
>>as if they are two different things.
>>Please explain the difference.
>>
>>Could you post a example of the declaratives in hhtpd.conf
>>that would create what we are talking about?
>>
>>Will web site content created by mswindows FrontPage 2000,
>>that was ftp loaded into a apache subdirectory work,
>>or does the fp_mod provide more that just the function of
>>downloading from within the mswindows fp client application?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Joe Barbish
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of
>>jacks@sage-american.com
>>Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:31 PM
>>To: Doug Reynolds; FBSD Questions; Joe & Fhe Barbish
>>Subject: Re: Apache_FP ?
>>
>>Thanks, Doug. I think the confusion is that the original poster's question
>>was unclear in that his "user" example is not the usual structure, i.e.,
>>"tom.index"
>>
>>"...Can Apache_FP have directory based web sites that would be
>>accessed by a url of this type http://www.domain.com/dir_name or
>>http://www.domain.com/tom.index where domain points to the
>>apache server and (dir_name and tom.index)..."
>>
>>...further top the "index" though, each subweb can have an index.html and
>>be reached by:
>>www.website.com/tom/
>>...or:
>>www.website.com/tom/tom.html
>>
>>...and so on...
>>
>>But, Doug, I believe your clarification is correct about the user's home
>>directory & FPage.
>>
>>At 11:50 AM 1.26.2002 -0500, Doug Reynolds wrote:
>>>On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:37:26 -0600, jacks@sage-american.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>"....you can't, however, make www.website.com/~username/ accessable by
>>>>frontpage.  you have to ftp the files in...."
>>>>
>>>>This is not true. I make www.website.com/websitedir using FrontPage all
>>the
>>>>time (for 5 years) now. They are "subwebs" or "child webs". I have one
>>main
>>>>website with about 20 subwebs. Some are open and some require logins.
>>>>
>>>>After creating a "new web" off of the main domain, you ask FPage to "list
>>>>webs" under www.website and it will show all its children or subwebs
>>>>separately... all of which may have separate logins for admin, authoring
>>or
>>>>whatever. They may be "protected webs" that require a login to enter and
>>>>browse or may be open to all. During creation (or even afterwards) in
>>>>"tools/permissions" you can tell it to have "unique permissions" or have
>>it
>>>>the same as the root.
>>>
>>>that is what I said, even though I wasn't a 100% clear on
>>>www.website.com/dir/ which is a sub web, and i said you can also point
>>>different hostnames to it. like my www.rebel.tj points to the
>>>wastegate.net/mav/ directory.
>>>
>>>however, you can't have the www.website.com/~username/ work under
>>>frontpage.  you can have www.website.com/username/, but you have to set
>>>that up though the fpsvradm.exe, whereis the /~username/, all the user
>>>has to do is upload there page to the web directory.
>>>
>>>---
>>>doug reynolds | the maverick | mav@wastegate.net
>>>
>>>PGP Public Key Fingerprint: 6E7B 9993 B503 6D45  E33A 2019 26E5 C1DB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Jack L. Stone,
>>Server Admin
>>
>>===================================================
>>Sage-American
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>>jacks@sage-american.com
>>
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>
>Best regards,
>Jack L. Stone,
>Server Admin
>
>===================================================
>Sage-American
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>jacks@sage-american.com
>
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Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Server Admin

===================================================
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