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Date:      Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:05:59 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Thomas David Rivers <rivers@dignus.com>
To:        mbendiks@eunet.no, mladavac@metropolitan.at, nate@mt.sri.com, rivers@dignus.com
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, jabley@clear.co.nz
Subject:   RE: Adding desktop support
Message-ID:  <199904291305.JAA20952@lakes.dignus.com>
In-Reply-To: <55586E7391ACD211B9730000C11002761795F4@r-lmh-wi-100.corpnet.at>

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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Thomas David Rivers [SMTP:rivers@dignus.com]
> > Sent:	Thursday, April 29, 1999 12:58 PM
> > To:	mbendiks@eunet.no; nate@mt.sri.com
> > Cc:	hackers@FreeBSD.ORG; jabley@clear.co.nz
> > Subject:	Re: Adding desktop support
> > 
> > 
> >  I point out that if the executable has no icon in it, then this
> >  "overrides" from the window manager would come into play, right?
> > 
> >  Since the "overrides" have to be there anyway - what's the advantage
> >  of putting the icon in the exe?
> > 
> 	[ML]  Convenience for the users.  Just plain and simple.
> 
> 	The same reason one has clickable icons in filemanagers/desktops
> instead of starting an application from an xterm command line.  Don't
> ever underestimate the driving force of plain convenience (or don't you
> ever use icon clicks to start something under X?)
> 
> 	/Marino

 As it happens, on UNIX, nope - I quit doing that... for one
 very good reason.  When I start something from an ICON, typically
 stderr is directed "away".  And, typically, UNIX programs (including
 such mostly-GUI applications as Netscape) write useful information
 to stderr.

 So - after struggling for awhile with a particular problem, then
 trying to run the program from the command line and seeing the nice/helpful
 message which would have prevented a lot of frustration... I quit
 starting things by "clicking."

	- Dave Rivers -




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