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Date:      Sun, 14 Jan 1996 12:25:45 -0600 (CST)
From:      "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" <karl@mcs.com>
To:        taob@io.org (Brian Tao)
Cc:        fenner@parc.xerox.com, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: A few other concerns from a FreeBSD ISP
Message-ID:  <m0tbX7h-000IDUC@venus.mcs.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.960114123615.213v-100000@cabal.io.org> from "Brian Tao" at Jan 14, 96 12:38:07 pm

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> 
> On Wed, 10 Jan 1996, Bill Fenner wrote:
> > 
> > I have always thought that this situation could only be attributed to
> > one or the other end not waiting for 2*MSL before deleting connection
> > information.  In particular, if the source end cut its TIME_WAIT state
> > short for some tcpcb, that port number could get reused while the
> > server end was still in TIME_WAIT and thus completely ignoring all
> > packets.
> 
>     Hmmmm, okay, whatever you say.  ;-)
> 
> > But I haven't yet gotten around to testing this theory; I can't say
> > that I recall seeing this problem, so it may also be load-related,
> > etc.
> 
>     I don't think it is.  I've seen it happen to individual
> workstations as well as to shell servers with 100+ people on it.  The
> really irritating thing is that it works *most* of the time, under
> either extreme of load condition.  :(
> --
> Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org)
> Systems Administrator, Internex Online Inc.
> "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"

Run a few hundred "rshs" from a Freebsd machine to anything else.  At least
some small number will *HANG PERMANENTLY*.

We have had to modify "rsh" to have a timeout parameter option (yeeeech!)
and retry in the calling script to fix this here.  That sucks; I would love
to understand EXACTLY what is going on when this happens.

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