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Date:      Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:28:54 -0500 (EST)
From:      Charles Sprickman <spork@bway.net>
To:        Christopher Hilton <chris@vindaloo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: OpenBSD's spamd.
Message-ID:  <Pine.OSX.4.61.0612191425220.354@white.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com>
In-Reply-To: <45881546.30400@vindaloo.com>
References:  <200612191347.kBJDlg5c058711@lurza.secnetix.de> <45881546.30400@vindaloo.com>

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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Christopher Hilton wrote:

> Oliver Fromme wrote:
>> Dimitry Andric wrote:
>>  > Oliver Fromme wrote:
>>  > > What does stuttering mean?  Is it similar to sendmail's
>>  > > "greet_pause" feature?
>>  >  > See here:
>>  > http://www.ualberta.ca/~beck/nycbug06/spamd/mgp00014.html
>> 
>> OK, so the answer to my question seems to be "yes".  :-)
>> 
>
> Actually I'd say it's similar. If you telnet to port 25 on a server that's 
> using sendmail's greet_pause option I'm assuming that you get nothing for 5 
> seconds. OpenSD's Spamd sends the initial greeting at a rate of one character 
> per second and only accepts data from you at the same rate.

It also sets the window size to something like 1 byte. :)

Someone had mentioned that this would consume many threads/processes, but 
that is not the case.  Bob explained that spamd runs in a select() loop. 
I don't totally understand that, but to me it sounds like the same 
methodology that thttpd used, and that sure scaled up nice.

Here's what I think is the latest version of Bob's talk.  It's quite good.

http://www.ualberta.ca/~beck/nycbug06/spamd/

There's audio available here:

http://www.nycbsdcon.org/slides

Was the original question "when will the FreeBSD port be updated"?? :)

Charles

> Through experimentation Bob Beck determined that many spammers were dropping 
> the connection and forgetting about delivering the mail completely after 
> short and shorter intervals if the connection was rate limited to 1 character 
> / sec. When the spammers got down to 3 seconds he modified spamd to stutter 
> for 10 seconds on any connection. That feature came in on OpenBSD 3.8
>
> -- Chris
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