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Date:      Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:21:45 -0500
From:      Gary Palmer <gjp@in-addr.com>
To:        Tom <tom@uniserve.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: JFS 
Message-ID:  <82900.949299705@in-addr.com>
In-Reply-To: Message from Tom <tom@uniserve.com>  of "Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:29:06 PST." <Pine.BSF.4.05.10001302126530.23661-100000@shell.uniserve.ca> 

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Tom wrote in message ID
<Pine.BSF.4.05.10001302126530.23661-100000@shell.uniserve.ca>:
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> 
> > > Due to the lack of interest, FreeBSD's LFS has fallen into disrepair
> > > over the years.  With the implementation of softupdates in FreeBSD I
> > > don't think there is any need for LFS any more.
> > 
> > Repeat that over and over the next time you wait fsck finish a 40 Gb
> > filesystem checkup, and see if you manage to convince yourself of that.
> 
>   Actually, one of the goals of the softupdates development is a fsck'less
> filesystem.  I'm not sure how this is to be achieved.  Probably a metadata
> journal, though that is just speculation.  All the work on metadata update
> ordering in softupdates would probably apply very nicely to a journal.

The way I understand it is that SoftUpdates is meant to leave the
metadata consistant enough that the filesystem can be mounted
read/write immediately at boot, and then have a background fsck go
through and remove blocks which are allocated in the bitmaps, but
aren't really used.  The only thing you lose by not running the
background daemon is space.  I don't think anyone's running like this
today, but that is Kirks plan.


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